So is Teofimo Lopez P4P #1 now?

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  • GrandpaBernard
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    #11
    Needs more depth to his victories

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    • danceswithfire
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      #12
      no , but lopez deserves to enter the p4p 10 list

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      • RomanReigns2
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        #13
        Top 10. I put him at 7.

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          #14
          Originally posted by !! Anorak
          The thing with this P4P stuff is that it's just a theoretical hypothetical, there just as "a bit of fun" for boxing fans, but it's got taken too seriously.

          There's very few instances where it can actually be PROVEN, and that was shown last night.

          I take nothing away from Lopez's victory, but that fight proved nothing when it comes to a "P4P" argument. If every boxer was the same size, who would win?.... well, Vaseline didn't look outclassed, but he looked out of his WEIGHT class... Lopez looked 1-2 divisions bigger for me. 135 isn't a good fit for him.

          It also can't apply to straight match-ups IMO, kind of doesn't work that way... if boxer A has a style that beats boxer B, does that mean he's better, P4P, if boxer B is able to beat boxers C-Z and boxer A can't?
          and the excuses begin...
          😃😃😃😃😃😃😃

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          • Johnny2x2x
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            #15
            I think he’ll debut at 8th or 9th. Loma should be below him no matter what. Crawford and Canelo now 1 and 2.

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            • Zaryu
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              #16
              Not really #1, we have a case of an older smaller fighter losing to a young talent that's also larger than him. In my opinion Loma is still a better p4p fighter than Lopez, he just may not be a better lightweight. But i fully expected Loma to go down in the p4p rankings and for Lopez to potentially enter people's p4p lists.

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              • tito_bandito
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                #17
                I think he can be #2 right behind Canelo. Crawford aka Fraudford, hasn’t fought anyone to be on the list.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by !! Anorak
                  The thing with this P4P stuff is that it's just a theoretical hypothetical, there just as "a bit of fun" for boxing fans, but it's got taken too seriously.

                  There's very few instances where it can actually be PROVEN, and that was shown last night.

                  I take nothing away from Lopez's victory, but that fight proved nothing when it comes to a "P4P" argument. If every boxer was the same size, who would win?.... well, Vaseline didn't look outclassed, but he looked out of his WEIGHT class... Lopez looked 1-2 divisions bigger for me. 135 isn't a good fit for him.

                  It also can't apply to straight match-ups IMO, kind of doesn't work that way... if boxer A has a style that beats boxer B, does that mean he's better, P4P, if boxer B is able to beat boxers C-Z and boxer A can't?
                  Tell Terry O'Connor to put the phone down when he is supposed to be judging a fight.
                  Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 10-18-2020, 11:44 AM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Zaryu
                    Not really #1, we have a case of an older smaller fighter losing to a young talent that's also larger than him.
                    Didn't people start putting Lomachenko at #1 after he beat an older, smaller fighter that he was larger than?

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                    • baroidi
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                      #20
                      nope, he still needs some big wins, just like when Rungvisai beat Chocolatito and then brutally knocked him out in the rematch, nobody moved Rungvisai to P4P#1

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