Talk about running and fighting scared lol

[MUNG]

Yup

This is painfully obvious too.

1 decent win and all of a sudden ppl here cream there pants for them, it happens all the time.

Yeah teo has one decent win and now's he's the next ali and duran, happen's all the time alrite

EDIT in fact he has this before he beat loma lol

[IronDanHamza]

Loma lost to Lopez 115-113.

Mayweather lost to Castillo 116-112.

Just putting that out there.

Except that wasn’t the Mayweather score according to any judge.

[TheMyspaceDayz]

Except that wasn’t the Mayweather score according to any judge.

Harold Lederman, the unofficial judge, scored it this way against his own HBO fighter. That speaks volumes.

[IronDanHamza]

Harold Lederman, the unofficial judge, scored it this way against his own HBO fighter. That speaks volumes.

Are you not aware that that’s an unofficial scorecard or no?

[CauliflowerEars]

i get what you mean about the ruiz comparison...but teo was never ruiz to begin with...teo has alot more physical ability which makes him a tougher out....plus teo, at 135, isnt at a size disadvantage like ruiz can be in certain HW matchups...moving up to 147 might be more difficult for teo

he has matured since the nakatani fight for sure....and he its fair to say he probably isnt done maturing as a fighter...i think people took that nakatani fight as gospel or something...like it defined teo or something....guys have bad, tough, nights some times against different types of fighters....people read way too much into that fight...which is why i warn people about writing off someone like tank because of the gamboa fight...people want to make it out to be the most disastrous, worst, performance theyve ever seen....

Yeah Lopez turned out to be a little tough to read, with the breakdown, then returning to the smack talk, then with the Pops, etc etc. He grew from it, rather than avoiding to deal with his mental issues.
Which leads me back to the Andy Ruiz comparison. Only relation there is the mental aspect. I had big questions how Ruiz would handle his sudden fame and finances. Would he still be able to focus, keep the hunger, etc. ?
Nothing to do with the fight details, only the fact they both dethroned a champion by upset and now must adjust to what comes with that type of notoriety. The great ones, or mature ones, seem to stay locked in most of their career, never resting on their laurels...

Personally I would have liked to see Lomachenko unify and stay on top at least 1 more year. But Lopez may be right about a new generation of champs taking over. He earned another level of respect Saturday night, and upsets always breed excitement. It's really not bad for boxing.

[Marchegiano]

That's a fair point.

[Curt Henning]

Yeah Lopez turned out to be a little tough to read, with the breakdown, then returning to the smack talk, then with the Pops, etc etc. He grew from it, rather than avoiding to deal with his mental issues.
Which leads me back to the Andy Ruiz comparison. Only relation there is the mental aspect. I had big questions how Ruiz would handle his sudden fame and finances. Would he still be able to focus, keep the hunger, etc. ?
Nothing to do with the fight details, only the fact they both dethroned a champion by upset and now must adjust to what comes with that type of notoriety. The great ones, or mature ones, seem to stay locked in most of their career, never resting on their laurels...

Personally I would have liked to see Lomachenko unify and stay on top at least 1 more year. But Lopez may be right about a new generation of champs taking over. He earned another level of respect Saturday night, and upsets always breed excitement. It's really not bad for boxing.

that fight was good for boxing and we knew it was...thats why we anticipated it so much.....it made me sad watching people talk trash about teo about how they thought he was ducking because he asked for more money...or he was "having second thoughts"....that guy never doubted anything for a second

i totally know what you mean about the ruiz/money/fame stuff....and teo def seems like the type that could go off the rails...but i dont think he will...i think hes a good kid at heart...but like you said if theres something not right upstairs it wont matter how good of a kid he is.....i think hell be ok though

i had a coworker who is a casual IM me today at work asking me if i watched...he said he did and that he couldnt believe it wasnt on ppv.....

[The Big Dunn]

Loma lost to Lopez 115-113.

Mayweather lost to Castillo 116-112.

Just putting that out there.

Your scorecards are way off the scorecards of the judges for both fights.

I get you hate Floyd but this really isn’t the time for retroactive axe grinding.

Loma lost fairly. Has nothing to do with Floyd.

[SUBZER0ED]

So let me get this straight; at the top level of boxing, one guy wins more than the first half of the fight. The other guy wins less than the second half of the fight. The guy who wins the decision is now awesome, while the guy who loses is an exposed piece of trash fighter? Sounds like some of you guys are running more on emotion than objectiveness.

[SUBZER0ED]

Yeah Lopez turned out to be a little tough to read, with the breakdown, then returning to the smack talk, then with the Pops, etc etc. He grew from it, rather than avoiding to deal with his mental issues.
Which leads me back to the Andy Ruiz comparison. Only relation there is the mental aspect. I had big questions how Ruiz would handle his sudden fame and finances. Would he still be able to focus, keep the hunger, etc. ?
Nothing to do with the fight details, only the fact they both dethroned a champion by upset and now must adjust to what comes with that type of notoriety. The great ones, or mature ones, seem to stay locked in most of their career, never resting on their laurels...

Personally I would have liked to see Lomachenko unify and stay on top at least 1 more year. But Lopez may be right about a new generation of champs taking over. He earned another level of respect Saturday night, and upsets always breed excitement. It's really not bad for boxing.

The sudden fame and money that Ruiz won didn't ruin him. He was already undisciplined; look at how fat he's been all of this time and so young? No, the fame and money merely gave him an excuse to further indulge in his already undisciplined lifestyle.