The Takeover!!!

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The key was always going to be to keep Lomachenko on his back foot and to consistently pop out the jab even if it was not landing. Lomachenko is great but was never unbeatable nor the best fighter since Ali lol.

Haney next up for Lopez? Let's get it on!

Not a bad fight. Not sure how long Lopez will stay at 135 though.

I give Loma a lot of props for even taking a fight like that tbh. Lopez is a guy that most guys would have waited on to move up as he is a big threat.

No comment on 'best since Ali' lol but I do think he is great, though much more human at 135. Again I do give him props for taking on tough fights virtually every time out, that is very rare in any era.

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Yep was a great fight honestly

I wouldn't say a great fight but a good one. Lomachenko barely through punches in the first 7 rounds. Great ending though with Lomachenko starting to break down Lopez and Lopez responding in the 12th round.

[KTFOKING]

Not a bad fight. Not sure how long Lopez will stay at 135 though.

I give Loma a lot of props for even taking a fight like that tbh. Lopez is a guy that most guys would have waited on to move up as he is a big threat.

No comment on 'best since Ali' lol but I do think he is great, though much more human at 135. Again I do give him props for taking on tough fights virtually every time out, that is very rare in any era.

Props to Lomachenko for his entire career. True champion but he underestimated how quick, strong and how good Lopez was. Lopez can get hit and is too flat footed in the pocket, but he's firing some sharp counters. Lopez is going to struggle against certain fighters but this is HIS night. Like Ward said, Lopez called his shot two years ago. I was one of the few saying he would beat Lomachenko. At that time I just felt Lopez and Mikey were wrong for Lomachenko. We didn't get to see the Mikey fight, but glad we saw the Lopez fight.

Take a bow young man, you did something special tonight.

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I wouldn't say a great fight but a good one. Lomachenko barely through punches in the first 7 rounds. Great ending though with Lomachenko starting to break down Lopez and Lopez responding in the 12th round.

To each his own I suppose. I like a good chess match, and Loma had to be very cautious early with Lopez, and then pick his spots late. Chess match early with Lopez doing what he was supposed to do, then it was a race against time to see if Lopez could hold on or find a second wind, and if Loma could find enough of an opening to really hurt Teo and change the fight. I really enjoyed it.

Props to Lomachenko for his entire career. True champion but he underestimated how quick, strong and how good Lopez was. Lopez can get hit and is too flat footed in the pocket, but he's firing some sharp counters. Lopez is going to struggle against certain fighters but this is HIS night. Like Ward said, Lopez called his shot two years ago. I was one of the few saying he would beat Lomachenko. At that time I just felt Lopez and Mikey were wrong for Lomachenko. We didn't get to see the Mikey fight, but glad we saw the Lopez fight.

Take a bow young man, you did something special tonight.

I thought Loma would stop him late, but honestly the fight was just about what I expected. I always felt Lopez had a real shot to trouble Loma because he is so explosive. Any man can lose, and that's just how I always saw it. Same sh.it I've always said with Charlo-GGG even though GGG has been great.

I just tended to think Lopez would be strong the first 3-4 rounds, then Loma would find his footing and put him out in the late-middle rounds.

But Loma couldn't find any footing until the 7th, and then it was a race against time and as you may expect after waiting that long to find an opening or two, he couldn't find enough of one to end the fight.

Loma has looked human at 135. Mikey's size would I'm sure trouble Loma, but I don't see the real comparison between Mikey and Teo. Teo's explosiveness and power were just too much for Loma tonight. Mikey has a different skill set but with the size advantage and Loma's human-ness at 135, I would expect a close fight.

Lopez I'm sure will have some ups and downs but as long as he is as explosive as he is, he is a monster for anyone. And he had enough stamina and toughness late to hold on. Even came back strong in the 12th.

At 135 he is too dangerous for anyone I think. Loma in a rematch could take him if he found something in this fight and he could start earlier. But I don't see the other guys you mentioned having a plan B to Lopez stalking them early.

With him you seemingly have to just sit there and take it for 6 rounds, or open yourself up and probably get KOed. I don't know if Ryan Tank or Haney would look any better than Loma did tonight. Who knows though, hope Lopez can safely make 135 for a few more fights because there are some great ones there. Really energizes the division.

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To each his own I suppose. I like a good chess match, and Loma had to be very cautious early with Lopez, and then pick his spots late. Chess match early with Lopez doing what he was supposed to do, then it was a race against time to see if Lopez could hold on or find a second wind, and if Loma could find enough of an opening to really hurt Teo and change the fight. I really enjoyed it.



I thought Loma would stop him late, but honestly the fight was just about what I expected. I always felt Lopez had a real shot to trouble Loma because he is so explosive. Any man can lose, and that's just how I always saw it. Same sh.it I've always said with Charlo-GGG even though GGG has been great.

I just tended to think Lopez would be strong the first 3-4 rounds, then Loma would find his footing and put him out in the late-middle rounds.

But Loma couldn't find any footing until the 7th, and then it was a race against time and as you may expect after waiting that long to find an opening or two, he couldn't find enough of one to end the fight.

Loma has looked human at 135. Mikey's size would I'm sure trouble Loma, but I don't see the real comparison between Mikey and Teo. Teo's explosiveness and power were just too much for Loma tonight. Mikey has a different skill set but with the size advantage and Loma's human-ness at 135, I would expect a close fight.

Lopez I'm sure will have some ups and downs but as long as he is as explosive as he is, he is a monster for anyone. And he had enough stamina and toughness late to hold on. Even came back strong in the 12th.

At 135 he is too dangerous for anyone I think. Loma in a rematch could take him if he found something in this fight and he could start earlier. But I don't see the other guys you mentioned having a plan B to Lopez stalking them early.

With him you seemingly have to just sit there and take it for 6 rounds, or open yourself up and probably get KOed. I don't know if Ryan Tank or Haney would look any better than Loma did tonight. Who knows though, hope Lopez can safely make 135 for a few more fights because there are some great ones there. Really energizes the division.

What I saw with both Mikey and Lopez was two big, strong LWs that would be able to keep Lomachenko on the back foot. Mikey has a different style than Lopez, but his jab is far superior and he's a good counter puncher himself. The jab is what keeps Lomachenko at bay and doesn't allow him to use all his angles. I'm not saying Lomachenko would have no shot in that fight, just that I would favor Garcia and it was going to be hell for Lomachenko all fight.

I respect good chess matches as well, more than others. But I just think Lomachenko was TOO defensive and not doing anything for far too many stretches of the rounds. Like it wasn't like it was a battle of two great counter punchers and one being afraid of making a mistake. Lopez was popping the jab out, backing Lomachenko up and then going to the body.

Lomachenko got out worked like he did against Salido but in a different way this fight. His mistake was that he let Lopez conserve enough energy since he didn't have to do a whole a lot himself and that allowed him to respond in the later rounds. If Lomachenko would have made it harder on Lopez early on, then maybe Lopez gets stopped late. Of course, Lomachenko would have put himself in danger if he tried to exchange early on but that's the risk he needed to take.

Will be interesting to see what Lomachenko does next. He can stay at LW and pick up the belts again or move down to 130 where there are a lot of good fights for him. He will have the Berchelt/Valdez winner, Stevenson, Navaratte and the winner of Davis/LSC.

Lopez will move up to 140 and I would love to see him face the winner of Taylor/Ramirez. I think Taylor may be all wrong for him but Lopez will compete and make it a fight.

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What I saw with both Mikey and Lopez was two big, strong LWs that would be able to keep Lomachenko on the back foot. Mikey has a different style than Lopez, but his jab is far superior and he's a good counter puncher himself. The jab is what keeps Lomachenko at bay and doesn't allow him to use all his angles. I'm not saying Lomachenko would have no shot in that fight, just that I would favor Garcia and it was going to be hell for Lomachenko all fight.

I respect good chess matches as well, more than others. But I just think Lomachenko was TOO defensive and not doing anything for far too many stretches of the rounds. Like it wasn't like it was a battle of two great counter punchers and one being afraid of making a mistake. Lopez was popping the jab out, backing Lomachenko up and then going to the body.

Lomachenko got out worked like he did against Salido but in a different way this fight. His mistake was that he let Lopez conserve enough energy since he didn't have to do a whole a lot himself and that allowed him to respond in the later rounds. If Lomachenko would have made it harder on Lopez early on, then maybe Lopez gets stopped late. Of course, Lomachenko would have put himself in danger if he tried to exchange early on but that's the risk he needed to take.

Will be interesting to see what Lomachenko does next. He can stay at LW and pick up the belts again or move down to 130 where there are a lot of good fights for him. He will have the Berchelt/Valdez winner, Stevenson, Navaratte and the winner of Davis/LSC.

Lopez will move up to 140 and I would love to see him face the winner of Taylor/Ramirez. I think Taylor may be all wrong for him but Lopez will compete and make it a fight.

Yes will be interested to see how Lopez does going forward.

Yes as you hinted at, Loma had to be cautious early and not throw because he didn't want to give Teo an opening and take a big shot he couldn't defend against. Loma was probably hoping that feel out period would only be a few rounds, but he just couldn't find any footing until the 2nd half of the fight and it wasn't enough.

I see what you're saying about taking chances early, but Loma is just too smart of a fighter to do that. Number 1 rule in a fight is don't do something dumb and get sparked out. Loma is just too smart to take a big risk like that early. He is tough so in the 2nd half he was always going to put himself in a little more danger but I can see why he waited. Just had to start a little earlier, but credit to Teo for that.

I liked the chess match of it because I feel like if Loma started in round 5 or 6 instead of 7, he maybe would have put Teo in the matrix and got the stoppage. But he didn't find anything until round 7 and then it was a race against time.

Idk I just really enjoyed it. I knew Teo would pose problems early on, he is just too explosive and you have to be cautious. Just felt the feel out period would end after 3-4 rounds but it was 6-7 rounds before it ended.

Great fight, loved it. Props to Lopez, the right man won even if 11-1 and even 9-3 make me roll my eyes.

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Yes will be interested to see how Lopez does going forward.

Yes as you hinted at, Loma had to be cautious early and not throw because he didn't want to give Teo an opening and take a big shot he couldn't defend against. Loma was probably hoping that feel out period would only be a few rounds, but he just couldn't find any footing until the 2nd half of the fight and it wasn't enough.

I see what you're saying about taking chances early, but Loma is just too smart of a fighter to do that. Number 1 rule in a fight is don't do something dumb and get sparked out. Loma is just too smart to take a big risk like that early. He is tough so in the 2nd half he was always going to put himself in a little more danger but I can see why he waited. Just had to start a little earlier, but credit to Teo for that.

I liked the chess match of it because I feel like if Loma started in round 5 or 6 instead of 7, he maybe would have put Teo in the matrix and got the stoppage. But he didn't find anything until round 7 and then it was a race against time.

Idk I just really enjoyed it. I knew Teo would pose problems early on, he is just too explosive and you have to be cautious. Just felt the feel out period would end after 3-4 rounds but it was 6-7 rounds before it ended.

Great fight, loved it. Props to Lopez, the right man won even if 11-1 and even 9-3 make me roll my eyes.

Yeah, but you can't just give up THAT many rounds. You know what this reminded me of? A freaking Badou Jack fight lol. This is what he usually does early on and then comes on heavy in the 2nd half of the fight often times putting it on the opponent. But that leads to a lot of close, controversial decisions.

Lomachenko picked it up in the 7th round, but Lopez may have nicked that round as well. Lomachenko was going to be hard to hit on the chin with his high guard defense and his movement, so I'm glad that Lopez quickly adjusted and started to go down to the body. Campbell hurt Lomachenko a few times to the body and had his fair share of success but just couldn't keep up with the great fighter.

I definitely enjoyed the fight, don't get me wrong. But just saying, I don't think it was quite great. Lomachenko threw only three hundred some punches and clearly needed to get in the fight 450 range at least. He's not going to get his chance at redemption since there is no rematch clause and Lopez is likely moving up, but there is no need for him to have any shame in this loss. He did himself proud with his performance in the 2nd half of the fight.

[kidbazooka]

Hell yeahhhhhhhh

Lopez is taking over!!!!

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Yeah, but you can't just give up THAT many rounds. You know what this reminded me of? A freaking Badou Jack fight lol. This is what he usually does early on and then comes on heavy in the 2nd half of the fight often times putting it on the opponent. But that leads to a lot of close, controversial decisions.

Lomachenko picked it up in the 7th round, but Lopez may have nicked that round as well. Lomachenko was going to be hard to hit on the chin with his high guard defense and his movement, so I'm glad that Lopez quickly adjusted and started to go down to the body. Campbell hurt Lomachenko a few times to the body and had his fair share of success but just couldn't keep up with the great fighter.

I definitely enjoyed the fight, don't get me wrong. But just saying, I don't think it was quite great. Lomachenko threw only three hundred some punches and clearly needed to get in the fight 450 range at least. He's not going to get his chance at redemption since there is no rematch clause and Lopez is likely moving up, but there is no need for him to have any shame in this loss. He did himself proud with his performance in the 2nd half of the fight.

I hear ya man. Yes I didn't score it but I didn't necessarily feel the 7th was definitely Loma's either. Felt he started to pile them up after that, but that also could be a bit of the 'give it to the underdog' scenario as you knew Loma needed those rounds to make it close. Would have to watch it to score it to really say.

The no rematch clause and the cards honestly just show me Arum is a snake lol. Would NEVER trust a guy like that. No one should.

All I'm saying is I can see why Loma was cautious. If you get KOed in the 2nd round, it is extremely damaging to your psyche/legacy/etc etc. Going 12 rounds and finding momentum late in a close fight, I mean it is easier to hold your head high on that.

Gotta take risks to get the rewards though...he tried but too little too late...

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I hear ya man. Yes I didn't score it but I didn't necessarily feel the 7th was definitely Loma's either. Felt he started to pile them up after that, but that also could be a bit of the 'give it to the underdog' scenario as you knew Loma needed those rounds to make it close. Would have to watch it to score it to really say.

The no rematch clause and the cards honestly just show me Arum is a snake lol. Would NEVER trust a guy like that. No one should.

All I'm saying is I can see why Loma was cautious. If you get KOed in the 2nd round, it is extremely damaging to your psyche/legacy/etc etc. Going 12 rounds and finding momentum late in a close fight, I mean it is easier to hold your head high on that.

Gotta take risks to get the rewards though...he tried but too little too late...

To be fair, Arum blasted Lederman's scorecards as well and said he scored it 7-5 Lopez and 8-4 was certainly possible, but definitely not 10-2 or 11-1 Lopez.

Oh, I'm not saying go take risks in the 2nd round. But by rounds four and five, you have to start being more assertive and take some chances. Even if you lose some of those rounds, at least you are putting some mental pressure on Lopez and making him work for those rounds. But whatever, the fight played out the way it did and a potential star was born.

Lomachenko is going to have some difficult fights at 130, so it will be interesting to see how his career plays out as he continues to age.