Comments Thread For: Salido: I Stayed On Top of Lomachenko, I Did Not Allow Him To Think!

[120]

**** off Salido.
You were heavily overweight, low blowed all night, headbuttes all night and he still almost got you.
1. The flight should not have been sanctioned.
2. You should have been disqualified or have several points deducted.
3. To everyone legit, this fight GG's a huge asterisk.

[Rick Taylor]

**** off Salido.
You were heavily overweight, low blowed all night, headbuttes all night and he still almost got you.
1. The flight should not have been sanctioned.
2. You should have been disqualified or have several points deducted.
3. To everyone legit, this fight GG's a huge asterisk.

there is no "almost" in boxing you casual.

[factsarenice]

Salido won Jeff Horn style...on paper

Salido was clearly getting busted up in the end and one round from getting knocked out.

The take away for Lomachenko, start faster, match dirty tactics and force the referee to do his job.

The take away for Salido...DO NOT give Lomachenko a rematch..period. The planets will never align themselves like that again, not the judges, the referee or Lomachenko, not like they did that night.

Salido recognized that one, he could never repeat. Second, and more importantly, being the 1st man to questionably beat Loma on the cards is better than being totally forgotten.

Walking away with the win is the only reason Salido is relevant.

Those are the facts.....................ya know!

[TX_BOXNG]

After all Salidoe still his real daddy lol

Loma had him those last rds, good fight, specially being his 2ndvor 3rd pro fight first 12 rounder

[BoZz]

Uhhh GRJ? Literally in his next fight GRJ was the one on the forward

Anyone can go forwards homie, me and you could go forward...it's not about just walking forward you need to know how and what to do..otherwise we could all become boxers.

[factsarenice]

So says the man that thinks Manny lost fairly to Horn. Sorry but context matters.

there is no "almost" in boxing you casual.

[120]

there is no "almost" in boxing you casual.

Right. That's why there's never any immediate rematches because there are never any questions left or any doubts after the fights... Grow up beginner.

[ShoulderRoll]

Top Rank's matchmakers have kept him away from good Mexican-style fighters since the Salido fight. Including keeping him away from a Salido rematch!

Tell me I'm wrong?

[Combat Talk Radio]

From what I've seen Duran should of never been in the right the second time around, and I believe that was Leonard's strategy just to get him inside the ring at his worst,hence why he invited him to a birthday party before the fight.

Which means Leonard out-mentaled him.

Mayweather on the other hand landed a clear punch on Ortiz, and he hit him on a good spot too.

Go back and watch Ortiz immediately during the count. He's laughing, he's lucid, his eyes wide open. He was NOT hurt and he could have gotten up if he wanted. He QUIT. He took the money and ran - and I don't blame him because he would have lost on points anyway.

And when it comes to Chavez Jr, I mean do we really have to mention that kid? He's been all over the place since the start of his career.

He is a perfect study case for why fighters quit. It's heart.

Jr. is actually a decent fighter with a decent chin and has never really been destroyed by anyone. He almost upset Sergio, Carnelo could barely keep him off, etc. But Jr. has no heart, period.

I would say Zab Judah lost his heart when he lost to Floyd. Some people say Tszyu; I don't think so. He became a unified champion after that fight. But after Floyd he was never the same fighter; the guy basically quit against Khan (that was NOT a low blow) because he was getting outboxed to hell and (in my opinion) basically quit against Paulie because he wasn't throwing.

But when you have someone like Rigo, he was talking sh** for fkn months, he would do this he would do that and what happened at the end? He quit..why did he quit? Because he got embarrassed because he missed most of his punches? And I understand this statement you wrote You don't know anything about a fighter until they're tested INSIDE but in Rigo's case for example or in Walters case, how did they get tested?

Like I said I respect someone making the decision not to keep going because they received a lots of damage during the fight but in this case I really don't understand why they quit so easily.

That's because you're not accepting the obvious. Heart.

It's not just about whether you get hurt. Some fighters have fragile egos and can't handle it when they think they're on top of the world and all of sudden someone comes along that just has their number. That's why I don't like when fighters get overhyped before they get a chance to prove how good they are, because it feels like there are a lot of fighters that get their heads pumped up, all the desire in the world to be at the top of the game, they take a loss and they just can't handle it.

Hamed/Barrera. Hamed didn't quit, but come on. He was going through the motions in the Calvo fight to the point nobody even remembers that he had a fight after Barrera. He was a BROKEN MAN. He wasn't badly hurt by Barrera, Barrera took his soul. Yes, Hamed was ****** before the fight (just like Duran), but that's his fault.

Now we're seeing it again Wilder and Fury. Wilder is a broken man after taking an L - not just an L but a dominant L - where other fighters would come back from it. This is after Mr "Body On The Record" has been fighting for "FOW HUNNIT YEAS!!" - only to get destroyed by an obese ex-drug addict. It's humbling.

What's confusing you is you had true warriors in the past, yes. Guys that wouldn't quit unless they just got absolutely destroyed and physically couldn't continue, like Cotto.

But look at Michael Spinks. He straight went into hiding for a decade after getting destroyed by Tyson because he couldn't handle showing his face. But it's F'N TYSON! The man was a top tier fighter and would have had a hell of a career, but he just didn't have the heart. Meanwhile you had Mitch 'Blood' Green go the FULL distance against prime Tyson and kept on fighting.

Freddie 'Lil Hagler' Norwood. He left the business for SIX YEARS after taking an L to Derrick 'Smoke' Gainer in a fight where it was his own damn fault he lost. He lost his cool and couldn't live with the decision - and frankly, a case could be made that he tried to get out of the fight pretending to be significantly hurt when he wasn't. This is a guy who (technically) was the first to beat Juan Marquez and did it with ease.

Dan Schommer. 1991 he quits the business because he can't get a title shot. Comes back, still winning, fights Chris Eubank for a title, gets robbed (even Eubank said later that the judges wouldn't let him lose a decision because he was RED hot at the time) and quits the business for good. No, he didn't quit during a fight, but he quit as a fighter. That's a lack of heart.

Lucas Matthysse. Go back and watch the ending of the Postol fight and tell me that man didn't quit.

Vitali Klitscho. Straight up QUIT against Chris Byrd. Over a shoulder. Yet, against Lennox Lewis he damn near lost an eye and kept fighting like a warrior.

Ultimately it's all about heart. Some guys can't handle getting embarrassed.

[factsarenice]

Very similar to fighting Horn in Australia.

Make sure you come in a weight class higher, get blind judges and a bias referee and hope you don't get knocked out before the final bell. That's the blueprint?

Yea there were low blows and illegal tactics going on during the fight, but it is the most effective performance we've ever seen against Lomachenko and it contains a big part of the blueprint needed to beat him. pressure, physicality, power and chin ARE effective against Lomachenko and should be utilized. Trying to win a clean boxing match against him is at this moment in time damn near impossible.