Comments Thread For: Rigondeaux Backs Lomachenko To Beat Teofimo Lopez, Explains Why

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  • BoxingIsGreat
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    #61
    Originally posted by Timur78
    Yeah, it will be the same IF/WHEN Loma beats Lopez.

    Then you say, Loma beat a young and inexperienced Lopez, right?

    Even if Loma goes to 140lbs and beats a champion there (hypothetical), still not good enough!
    Isn't that true? You'll never hear that from me, tho. If you are a 'champion' at the weight, you are a fair game to all.

    This would be a good win for Loma in a normal situation, but not when you argue he's 'great' or 'once in a generation' boxer. Then no. I'd consider it an OK win against a kid with a prospect record.

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      #62
      Originally posted by LoadedWraps

      Size has nothing to do with pushing the gas and letting your hands go! So what if he was tiny by any standard, elite is elite, move your head, come in and out, hit and don't be hit. Rigondeaux excelled at this. He has sparred larger dudes many times in his life, all boxers do. Would he win? It's that he didn't really TRY that pisses us off.

      And I disagree Lomachenko hasn't been pushed, that is literally what Salido did. Don't really care about your opinions about alleged low blows, a vet took advantage of a green, albeit skilled and higher IQ fighter. It's that simple. The more technically gifted fighter doesn't always win. Find a way to persevere and find a way to win. Regardless of if your opponent is fighting dirty or not, boxing is a sport but it's a blood sport and a fight as well. He didn't get it done that night period. Taking anything away from Salido is petty.
      Exactly, that one time. Loma lost.

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      • ceylon mooney
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        #63
        the differemce in weight (7 lbs fight night) proved to be ...not an issue at all. as we all saw, same fight if loma had been a bantamweight.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Bronx2245
          Yeah, but Rigo is the one who asked for the fight! Kell Brook also called for the fight with GGG! Canelo asked for the Kovalev fight! Now, LSC has called for the fight with Tank! If you initiate the fight, and you get that work, that's on you!
          brook was bigger and heavier than golovkin every step of the way, and size did matter in that one. size wasnt a part of rigo-loma. rigo can frickin crack, too.

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            #65
            Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
            Isn't that true? You'll never hear that from me, tho. If you are a 'champion' at the weight, you are a fair game to all.

            This would be a good win for Loma in a normal situation, but not when you argue he's 'great' or 'once in a generation' boxer. Then no. I'd consider it an OK win against a kid with a prospect record.
            ah, thats undervaluing teos accomplishments.

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              #66
              Originally posted by TrickOrSkeet34
              Re-watched the fight the other night & always thought it was a bit disingenuous to chalk everything up to the weight difference. Rigo was calling for the fight, got his ears boxed off & was 1 step behind in every exchange. Never really saw Loma imposing his on Rigo, feels like an overblown factor as to what played out in the ring.

              It's no different than Spence vs Garcia. Both guys were bigger but didn't use their size. Being bigger does not increase your reach, and boxing skills

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                #67
                Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                Nobody is saying to remove it from the record, point is it doesn't count as a 'great win.' Not even a good one.
                Rigo > LSC

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by theface07
                  That settles it then! A random schlub on the internet has spoken! Forget what a two time Olympic gold medallist says. BoxingIsGreat knows better.
                  Notice how his 2nd statement contradicted with his 1st. He just quoted the man’s words that he didn’t agree with as a bible reference of his agenda

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                  • masterpatric09
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                    #69
                    Paquiao didn't have any problems going up

                    No excuses you were outclassed regarding the weight. How Abouit Canelo beating Kova moving from 154 to 175?

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                      A lot of us thought Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux was a 50/50 fight going in.

                      But Rigondeaux was old and moving up 2 weight classes when he fought Lomachenko. Is that the truth or isn't it?
                      Truth and giving up 3 inches in height (although he had the reach advantage). I don't think it was ever a true 50/50 fight but definitely one worth seeing if Rigo could do something great. The fight was more of a testament of what Rigo was not than it was of Loma's greatness. Good win for Loma as he made it look easy. Bigger man should beat smaller man when the skills are equal.

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