Comments Thread For: Sulaiman: Lomachenko Is The WBC Lightweight Champion

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  • paulf
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    #111
    As ****** as it is, Haney and Charlo are the champs. You can't strip a guy of his title to allow his promoters to not have to do business with one another, give it to another fighter, and then say the original guy is undisputed. That is comical.

    Haney and Charlo are the champs, not Loma and Canelo, because the WBC is a garbage organization. Period.
    Last edited by paulf; 10-13-2020, 01:52 AM.

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    • TheCell8
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      #112
      Good. The idea that Haney is a WBC champion for literally doing nothing at all is embarrassing to the sport.

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      • 1hourRun
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        #113
        The title that Vasily Bumochenko holds was never fought for, its a honorary title ; like how the WBC recognizes that other overrated Ukrainian BUM Vitali Klitschko as the "Eternal Champion".

        Commonsense would lead the average intellect to understand that Vasily Lomachenko is the WBC paper-champion, and the biggest joke of all of this is that the World Boxing Council is trying to legitimize the 'Franchise' title, by sanctioning a fight between two champions from opposite sanctioning bodies ( IBF-WBA-WBO ) to lend credence to this phony belt and sham 'undisputed' showdown.

        Moreover, as a Teofimo fan but as a boxing fan first, I cant help to notice the glaring contradictions of Mauricios Suliman's initial description of said title, from what I recall to paraphrase the WBC president : that the 'Franchise' belt is a honorary title for those few elite boxers that have elevated the sport of boxing to the highest level. How has a 15-0 kid with barely any world-level experience fit this picture?

        Again this title was never fought for, the WBSS trophy hold more weight than this 'French-Fries' title, as far as I'm concerned.

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        • Divine Hammer
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          #114
          what a mess. wbc need to get a serious grip.the most sleazy corrupt organization in boxing today.

          the FBI needto step in to shut down this illegal corupt mess.

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          • BLASTER1
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            #115
            Originally posted by daggum
            he got avoided because loma was scheduled to fight the #1 guy in the division? that makes no sense. do you even realize what you are saying? its like saying canelo should avoid ggg to fight some random dude who has never fought anyone. oh canelo is avoiding the random dude by taking the ggg fight! derppp. everyone knew loma was fighting the commey-lopez winner, haney took that opportunity to say he wanted the loma fight, thats great but it was never going to happen at that time, and his actions of fighting complete bums and shot fighters don't really put a lot of confidence in his tough talk. oh i wanted to fight loma but since he was busy fightin the #1 guy in the division i guess ill just fight bums, i called him out! i called him out therefore hes ducking! ignore what hes actually doing and ignore what im actually doing!(which is fighting bums)
            Dont forget that Loma had a whole year to fight his mandatory so odviously Loma ducked no-one and Haney got his interem belt thru email.
            Why would Loma duck Haney when Devon isnt even proven to be a championship fighter.
            Is Devon gonna be the next hope to derail Loma or will it be Tank lol

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            • Doubledagger
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              #116
              “He won and petitioned for the Franchise designation. The Franchise is put above any champion in the lightweight category. So, Lomachenko is in fact champion with special attributes."

              Where are the pathological liars who claimed that Lomachenko didn't ask for the franchise tag himself in order to duck Haney?

              Lomachenko is in fact the paper champ of the wbc and ducked Devin Haney. WBC pres just admitted.

              He won a vacant title and didn't legitimize it against his undefeated, talented, highly touted mandatory challenger.

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              • Doubledagger
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                #117
                Originally posted by TarasMarcenko
                Sulieman is saying Lomachenko and Top Rank requested the Franchise Belt. Loma has said he never requested Franchise and was not aware of Top Rank requesting it. So, someone from Top Rank requested it to Sulieman unbeknownst to Loma. If rejected then Loma would not be the wiser. But because it was accepted then Loma was told. Loma's response to the affair was answering a question in an interview about this topic, in particular of what Sulieman stated months ago to that effect, that Top Rank and Loma requested it. Unless Sulieman got a direct request from Loma or was told by Top Rank that Loma is requesting it, it's just lumping together, an assumption on Sulieman's part, that Top Rank had informed Loma prior, it's semantics (from Sulieman's point of view, they are a whole team and are represented as one unit). Top Rank's motivation was to cut off DAZN at the knees for a bid. Lomachenko would care less about Top Rank's business acumen and reasons for what they do, machinating behind the scenes for their own bottom line. Loma has stated two fights he wanted in 2020 were Tank and Haney after the IBF. Franchise allows him to make those plans and not be burdened by a mandatory, at least for the WBC. And Loma again stated, responding to a Haney tweet, that he accepts a fight with Haney; he stated this mid-Covid lockdown period.

                Looking deeper and case in point, Top Rank again petitioned for Lopez. And Teo was not the one requesting it because he was just as surprised that Top Rank was making the request based on reactions and assumptions Franchise was non-transferrable. I'm sure as with the initial request by Top Rank, Top Rank didn't ask Loma if that was okay to make it transferrable. Because they are wheeling and dealing behind the scenes and the fighters are hearing of it second hand. 'A similar process was afforded Lopez during the WBC’s annual convention earlier this summer. Top Rank submitted a request for Lopez to be eligible for Franchise status should he beat Lomachenko'. Top Rank is just doing some wheeling and dealing, doing their jobs, and the fighters are background fodder, bystanders finding out about it after. I'm sure there is a lot of wheeling and dealing the fighters don't see, going on, that we don't hear about. DAZN, Golden Boy and PBC all are doing similar wheeling and dealing behind the scenes. That's what promotion companies do.
                Nah bro **** outta here.

                Yes, its possible for the franchise to be requested unbeknownst to him but its not possible for it to be accepted without his knowledge.

                You can't unknowingl drop a belt wtf? At some point Loma knew about the request and accepted the terms for dropping his belt and taking the franchise, knowing that he would consequently duck Haney as a result.

                Also, I don't wana here none of you Top Rank fan Boys complaining about Haymon doing inside fights with Spence instead of fighting Crawford when Arum is doing the exact same thing in the Lopez, Haney, Loma situation, even going Z far as bribing belt orgs to skip over rightful title challengers and then shut out said rightful challenger with a franchise paper belt.

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                • Cobra Curry
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                  That fat piece of crap Sulaiman just invents new rules as he sees fit, to suit his convenience.

                  Boxing fans, as the voice of the people, should give him no credibility.
                  That's why I can't roll with the whole "most prestigious belt" thing.

                  Ridiculous.

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                  • Doubledagger
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                    It belongs in the garbage.

                    Do you really think Haney has a world title? He beat a nobody guy that had 11 non title fights against bums! Then he defended it against a guy that had 12 non title fights against bums!
                    All because Loma ducked him though isn't it. All because Loma threw the belt in the bin to avoid him.

                    “He won and petitioned for the Franchise designation. The Franchise is put above any champion in the lightweight category. So, Lomachenko is in fact champion with special attributes."

                    Yawl can't hide behind the wbc pres anymore. He just exposed that yo boy was the one who asked for the franchise tag.

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                    • Doubledagger
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                      Pretty much, but .....

                      Only the fans of Haney are being fooled. Loma is the best LW in the world and it's not debatable. This announcement is nothing new or unexpected.
                      The best lightweight who hasn't proven ****.

                      Who he beat?

                      Has he beaten Teofimo yet?

                      Did he beat Haney?

                      Ryan Garcia?

                      Tank Davis?

                      Who he beat that makes him the best Lightweight?

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