Frank Warren confirms fury /Wilder is off

[Kezzer]

I still believe that fight will happen early in 2021. It is a huge money fight for both guys.

I think this is part of the issue, both want X amount and they won’t be able to get the live gate. In addition the ppv buys from the second fight were significantly less than they wanted in both the UK and USA which coupled with covid reduces the expectation within a third fight - which in the view of many (not me I will add) is now a foregone conclusions

Both fighters would need to take significant paycuts.

I can see why both dont want to because:

1) Fury can see Joshua round the corner, wilder remains a risk however people want to say it - and a risk he doesn’t fight AJ as a result. Joshu fury would be undisputed and with Joshua’s following would be a considerably bigger $$$ payout - certainly not less than what he got last time.

2) wilder can’t be sure he can win and this could be a last payout if he loses again but holding out he will be able to take on a few fighters he should beat - Whyte being one of them where he could get good money. After a couple fights of good earnings he should still be able to fight AJ for good money , possibly even a undisputed - and that would be worth more than he got for the fury fights. Alternatively he could rematch fury then but if fury has undisputed then and wilder has just beaten - let’s suggest Whyte & Ruiz - his stock has come back up; hopefully covid gone away or impact reduced - and the $$$ on the line a re big again.

Nobody will want to be walking away from it but it’s almost better for both

[Ray*]

He didn’t really confirm anything from what I heard from him last night. It’s like everything is a secret, like the two way rematch which none of them confirmed or denied for months before the second fight.

All am going to say is this, there is NO way a rematch clause wouldn’t have an expiry date. Am sure that fight had to happen within 12 months barring injuries etc.

So unless they have worked out another deal due to covid, then I truly believe there is a bit of truth to an expired date for this third fight.

Maybe they need to start speaking to foreign countries, and explain to Wilder the need to get his passport ready. Am sure they (PBC especially) would be hoping that’s the Tank and Spence fights get the live gate approval and makes them money. Then it would mean the Fury fight can have live gate, which means Wilder wouldn’t have to use his passport.

[Toffee]

Again, no one is backing out except the promoters.

Wilder enforced it but due to COVID, the time has expired. No COVID and the fight would have happened already.

And again, COVID only makes it less rewarding, it doesn't stop it happening.

If you want to fight, then fight. You'll earn millions. Even if it's millions less than you would have earned if COVID didn't happen.

Alternatively don't fight and earn FA.

[BodyBagz]

And again, COVID only makes it less rewarding, it doesn't stop it happening.

If you want to fight, then fight. You'll earn millions. Even if it's millions less than you would have earned if COVID didn't happen.

Alternatively don't fight and earn FA.

I'm just saying no one, especially Wilder, is backing out due to cowardice, which is how I'm taking the flow of convo.

[Toffee]

I'm just saying no one, especially Wilder, is backing out due to cowardice, which is how I'm taking the flow of convo.

I'm not saying cowardice. I just think he wants more money and he's not going to get it.

Mind you, would you blame him if he didn't fancy going straight back in against Fury? Even that's not cowardice, it's just about building him back up both as a fighter and as a draw to the public.

[hugh grant]

I think for fury the 3rd fight could be his last fight before he retires from sport having did all he wanted to do.

[BodyBagz]

I'm not saying cowardice. I just think he wants more money and he's not going to get it.

Mind you, would you blame him if he didn't fancy going straight back in against Fury? Even that's not cowardice, it's just about building him back up both as a fighter and as a draw to the public.

I usually raise an eyebrow at those who don't go for an immediate rematch if it's available. Being how the 1st rematch was a wipeout, a 3rd fight should not be a must. From Fury's POV.

Delaying it for another few months (if the rumor is true) is no big deal to the fighters. Us fans might be pissed.

[Duckweather]

Bob arum saying similar thing:

https://mobile.twitter.com/talkSPORT/status/1315272330927538177

[Rusty Tromboni]

I think you lost yourself there ?

What can I say? I fall head over heels for any trick who flashes me her shaved *****.

Now, just to make sure you don't have me love sick, let's revist our conversation.

It start when you said:

I saw pressure gets to Fury if you don’t let him plan the moves ahead .


This leaves one option, Fury better hope AJ freezes with long range faints , I don’t see it . AJ will work the body and top targets . I have Fury defeating many past time greats but if we look at this one a pressure counter puncher standing 6”6 is Furys roadblock.

That implies that Joshua will be able to stifle Fury's normal defensive ability by physically imposing himself upon Fury.

So I responded:

You're ******ed. Joshua is too static and predictable for a defensive Fury. Fury of the Wilder rematch is too strong and rough for little ***** Joshua.

Which means that Joshua has little hope of pressuring Fury and making him uncomfortable because he's too slow to do so. He's not faster than Wlad or Wilder, who looked lost as Fury moved about. And he's definitely not as: 1) Mobile, 2) Busy, 3)Iron-jawed as Wallin. And while I believe Wallin to be very good, Fury seemed to have intended to dial that one in, while Wallin fought like a man possessed.

Only an idiot (even one with a cute shaved *****) would pretend Joshua fights anything like Wallin, OR that Fury will arrive to his title fight with Joshua was relaxed and complacent as he did against Wallin.

Wallin won what? 3 rounds against Fury. It was thrilling because Wallin wanted it SOOO badly, and he was doing sooo much better than anticipated. But the the reality is Fury ran away with that fight. Even the cut was only serious because today those sort of things are taken way too seriously. (Cuts are only problematic when they limit visibility, since a fighter who can't see probably can't intelligently defend himself).

Fury's too strong for Joshua. He's also too mobile and smart. Joshua is a ***** who doesn't like to get hurt, while Fury is as real a man who's laced up gloves. I look forward to watch Fury bend Joshua over same as I bent you over here.