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  • Joeboxeo
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    #41
    This is the fight of century for me! Man i can't wait. Thanks Bob and ESPN to give us this historical battle FREE.

    2 high levels very skilled champions

    Teofimo is a man on a mission right now and he has everything to gains. He's so obsessed by Lomachenko's sclap for so long, thats why i think he will beat him up so badly. The new era begin oct 17!

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    • Combat Talk Radio
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      #42
      Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
      Gonna collect a nice bag from the Loma lovers for this one!

      When Lopez shuts off Loma’s lights it’ll be time to collect like the landlord!
      Quoting this so you don't disappear after Lopez quits.

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      • Squared.Circle
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        #43
        Originally posted by dan_cov
        What makes Linares an elite level fighter? He's been knocked out 5 times in his prime, several of which to frankly not very good fighters, 3 times inside 2 rounds! I don't think elite fighters get KTFO in their prime to your Cano's, DeMarcos, Salgados & Thompsons of the world.

        Who is his best win? Luke Campbell who is 1-1 vs Euro level Yvan Mendy?

        Not close to being an elite level fighter.
        He's fast, he is skilled but he is not an elite level fighter.
        His early knockout losses aren't career defining fights at all. He got caught, it happens. As a previous poster said, Linares unfortunately often has lapses in defence. Weirdly enough, usually in the first few rounds. DeMarco, again, wasn't a career defining fight. Linares completely outclassed him for 11 rounds and then, again, got caught. As for his opponents faced, there wasn't really many options for him at whatever weight he was in at those times. He's usually been a division or two behind the big names.

        Elite level guys are the highly skilled fighters that can get in there and preform at the elite level, like Linares did with Loma, who is undoubtedly an elite fighter. And the lightweight division isn't stacked with elite level fighters who are head and shoulders above the rest for Linares to establish it as a universal fact.

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        • Squared.Circle
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          #44
          Originally posted by SweetPbfAli
          Linares is highly skilled but he has this weird habit of defensive lapses that kills him. Offensively, he's excellent but his lack of attention to detail on defense has been his undoing.
          That's true. And especially within the first quarter of a fight too.

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            #45
            Originally posted by PRchamp
            Your right, the knockouts losses are the impressions I have of Linares. He’s a smooth boxer but his chin always been his downfall. I just feel like he was never a elite fighter

            I think Lopez is a different beast than Linares and that’s what’s make this fight so interesting.
            I don't think he's elite, but elite level. As in he can compete with those elite guys, have decent success, but will eventually come undone.

            López is definitely a different fighter, but styles make fights. I think the only reason Linares had so much success against Loma is that offensive, lateral moving, punches in bunches type style. He could move with Loma to a certain extent, which I don't think López will be able to do. I think López will be one step behind. Don't get me wrong, I see a good fight on the horizon, but I think Loma gets a UD.

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            • Joeboxeo
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              #46
              Originally posted by Joeboxeo
              This is the fight of century for me! Man i can't wait. Thanks Bob and ESPN to give us this historical battle FREE.

              2 high levels very skilled champions

              Teofimo is a man on a mission right now and he has everything to gains. He's so obsessed by Lomachenko's ''scalp'' for so long, thats why i think he will beat him up so badly. The new era begin oct
              17!
              He's so obsessed by Lomachenko's ''scalp'' for so long,

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              • Squ□redCircle34
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                #47
                Originally posted by revelated
                Quoting this so you don't disappear after Lopez quits.
                Don’t worry, you’ll disappear for a month when Lopez makes Loma eat the canvas!

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                • dan_cov
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Squared.Circle
                  His early knockout losses aren't career defining fights at all. He got caught, it happens. As a previous poster said, Linares unfortunately often has lapses in defence. Weirdly enough, usually in the first few rounds. DeMarco, again, wasn't a career defining fight. Linares completely outclassed him for 11 rounds and then, again, got caught. As for his opponents faced, there wasn't really many options for him at whatever weight he was in at those times. He's usually been a division or two behind the big names.

                  Elite level guys are the highly skilled fighters that can get in there and preform at the elite level, like Linares did with Loma, who is undoubtedly an elite fighter. And the lightweight division isn't stacked with elite level fighters who are head and shoulders above the rest for Linares to establish it as a universal fact.

                  Of course they're career defining people can act like they didn't happen and make excuses for him (weight drained, cuts easy, lapses in defense) but history will sure remember them. He's been flattened multiple times in world title fights. It does happen albeit rarely & I can't think of one 'elite' fighter that was that seasoned that it happened to that many times against that level of opposition & any remotely comparable sure as hell had much, much better wins than Linares. Maybe his defence (and chin) just isn't that good he's just so fast and gifted he gets away with it at a certain level.

                  Not having these lapses is a big part of what makes an elite fighter that and beating fellow elite fighters. This guys best wins a close decision to Luke Campbell who has beaten nobody of note followed by Larios & Chavez a good 5 years removed from their prime. I think off memory every title he's won was vacant he beat some C level fighter for.

                  He's only fought one fighter I'd class as elite and typically he got stopped like he did every other time he stepped up from fighting C level opposition.

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                  • dan_cov
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                    #49
                    He's arguably not even world class let alone elite. He's never beaten a fighter that was prime and proven world class. I haven't seen anything too suggest Luke Campbell is world class until I see him beat world class fighters.

                    There have been several guys like Linares in recent times that were very athletic, extremely fast zip style fighters who had poor chins and a lackluster defense. Amir Khan, Yuriorkis Gamboa to mention a few. They would often get clipped and knocked down vs lesser opposition the difference is for most part they would get up and win. They have accomplished and beaten far better fighters. Why does Linares get a pass?

                    Soon as he gets caught you may as well throw in the towel.
                    No chin, no defense, no survival instincts, questionable heart and will to win. A good frontrunner!

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                    • BoxingIsGreat
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by dan_cov
                      He's arguably not even world class let alone elite. He's never beaten a fighter that was prime and proven world class. I haven't seen anything too suggest Luke Campbell is world class until I see him beat world class fighters.

                      There have been several guys like Linares in recent times that were very athletic, extremely fast zip style fighters who had poor chins and a lackluster defense. Amir Khan, Yuriorkis Gamboa to mention a few. They would often get clipped and knocked down vs lesser opposition the difference is for most part they would get up and win. They have accomplished and beaten far better fighters. Why does Linares get a pass?

                      Soon as he gets caught you may as well throw in the towel.
                      No chin, no defense, no survival instincts, questionable heart and will to win. A good frontrunner!
                      All is true in this post. Kudos.
                      That's why I class him a C fighter.

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