Comments Thread For: Floyd Mayweather: I'm TBE - Not Ali, Marciano or Menayothin!

[Silver Spear]

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So I was right about what you were going to say. Of course I was. Since that was the only takeaway you had, I assume the other 9 opponents were ok in “your eyes”? If not, please do tell which fights those were?

Here’s one source about Canelo stating on camera that he was willing to meet Floyd at 150.

“It's what I want, the Mayweather fight. I feel more mature and for that I am willing to go down to 150 pounds," said Canelo to Sal Rodriguez.

https://www.boxingscene.com/saul-alvarez-ill-drop-150-floyd-mayweather-jr--46563

You can also just go to YouTube and just forward to post-fight interview and hear it for yourself.

I’ll get you Marquez after because I truly want to hear how you will try to side-step this proof.

Not looking to side step anything. I was asking about proof about the other fights you mentioned not the Canelo/Marquez ones. No fighter is going to admit on camera and to anyone publicly that they felt they were cheated. In the end both parties signed the contract and both parties are professionals and got paid.

[Oregonian]

Not looking to side step anything. I was asking about proof about the other fights you mentioned not the Canelo/Marquez ones. No fighter is going to admit on camera and to anyone publicly that they felt they were cheated. In the end both parties signed the contract and both parties are professionals and got paid.

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Now you are just ducking. I asked you to mention the other 9 fighters that Floyd somehow forced them to certain conditions.
I specifically mentioned Canelo and Marquez because those are the only two names people like you come up with.

Can you name the other 9 fighters that got shafted according to you?

[eco1]

Menayothin FTW!

[Silver Spear]

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Now you are just ducking. I asked you to mention the other 9 fighters that Floyd somehow forced them to certain conditions.
I specifically mentioned Canelo and Marquez because those are the only two names people like you come up with.

Can you name the other 9 fighters that got shafted according to you?

You brought up the "9" not me. I am not side stepping any proof you have provided. How is me simply asking for the proof you said you would link a sign of me ducking? How do you expect anyone to learn if you immediately attack them the moment they asked to be taught? Seems like you have some personal issues and you should resolve those before you try to venture out into the world and mingle with society. You assume much but that is fine. Again you brought up the magical number of 9 and before that 11.

[Oregonian]

You brought up the "9" not me. I am not side stepping any proof you have provided. How is me simply asking for the proof you said you would link a sign of me ducking? How do you expect anyone to learn if you immediately attack them the moment they asked to be taught? Seems like you have some personal issues and you should resolve those before you try to venture out into the world and mingle with society. You assume much but that is fine. Again you brought up the magical number of 9 and before that 11.

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This is what you write that started this debate 👇


Originally Posted by Silver Spear View Post
... I give Mayweather all the credit for getting the job done in the ring. Outside the ring however he was a master at creating a fight in his favor. He always had control of the contract and in turn had control to make the fight in his favor. His opponents did not make excuses or care much because either way they got paid.
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So, in which fights did Floyd have control to make fights in his favor? Which fights was he “a master” at creating the fights in his favor?

Floyd became a crossover superstar after he fought Oscar and Hatton in 2007. So as of 2007, Floyd was 39-0 hence my “magical” number of 11 remaining fights.

Do you get that now?

[Silver Spear]

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This is what you write that started this debate 👇


Originally Posted by Silver Spear View Post
... I give Mayweather all the credit for getting the job done in the ring. Outside the ring however he was a master at creating a fight in his favor. He always had control of the contract and in turn had control to make the fight in his favor. His opponents did not make excuses or care much because either way they got paid.
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So, in which fights did Floyd have control to make fights in his favor? Which fights was he “a master” at creating the fights in his favor?

Floyd became a crossover superstar after he fought Oscar and Hatton in 2007. So as of 2007, Floyd was 39-0 hence my “magical” number of 11 remaining fights.

Do you get that now?

I will admit I should not have used the word always. Floyd was a business man in the later parts of his career. He knew exactly how to set up his fights to give him the edge. If you want to continue to argue against that then so be it. In the business world those that have all the leverage control the outcome. I will be the first to admit that had Floyd and Manny fought years ago when the fight was first supposed to take place, Floyd would have won either way. He would have been hit more than usual and harder than he would like but the outcome would be the same. Having said that. I will also say that his constant contract changes etc probably delayed the fight more than anything.

[Oregonian]

I will admit I should not have used the word always. Floyd was a business man in the later parts of his career. He knew exactly how to set up his fights to give him the edge. If you want to continue to argue against that then so be it. In the business world those that have all the leverage control the outcome. I will be the first to admit that had Floyd and Manny fought years ago when the fight was first supposed to take place, Floyd would have won either way. He would have been hit more than usual and harder than he would like but the outcome would be the same. Having said that. I will also say that his constant contract changes etc probably delayed the fight more than anything.

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That’s fair enough.
That said, and this was my question from before - when was the “later part” of Floyd’s career? When did Floyd start to set up fights to give him the edge? Which fight did Floyd start doing tha and then continued to do so? I’m pretty sure you have a time frame in mind.

FYI, I also agree that Floyd would have beaten Manny in 2010 or anytime after that.

[Roadblock]

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That’s fair enough.
That said, and this was my question from before - when was the “later part” of Floyd’s career? When did Floyd start to set up fights to give him the edge? Which fight did Floyd start doing tha and then continued to do so? I’m pretty sure you have a time frame in mind.

FYI, I also agree that Floyd would have beaten Manny in 2010 or anytime after that.

They cant name actuals they always make a broad comment and cant back it up, Manny made more fights that handicapped his opponent than Floyd ever did and they step right over them.

The media have this notion Floyd chose fights to keep his 0, yet that is total BS if you break it down, the hating fans will always bring this up but like the media they cant put forward details that prove it, they just like to say it the bias with Floyd is incredible.

[Silver Spear]

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That’s fair enough.
That said, and this was my question from before - when was the “later part” of Floyd’s career? When did Floyd start to set up fights to give him the edge? Which fight did Floyd start doing tha and then continued to do so? I’m pretty sure you have a time frame in mind.

FYI, I also agree that Floyd would have beaten Manny in 2010 or anytime after that.

They cant name actuals they always make a broad comment and cant back it up, Manny made more fights that handicapped his opponent than Floyd ever did and they step right over them.

The media have this notion Floyd chose fights to keep his 0, yet that is total BS if you break it down, the hating fans will always bring this up but like the media they cant put forward details that prove it, they just like to say it the bias with Floyd is incredible.

Probably around the time he saw his DLH did it and took it over from there. Similar to what happened with Canelo and Floyd. Canelo (DLH really) learned from the business school of Floyd.

I have been on record saying that Manny for some reason gets a pass for doing the exact same thing Canelo is doing today. Manny is a "8 division champ" but if you look closer to the champs he beat they were not the best in the division yet he gets a pass and is still called a division champ. He fought numerous guys with catch weights yet it never gets brought up.

Fact is if you ever fought under HBO then you were more protected than ***** was with the media.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Floyd’s favorite line, “men lie, women lie, numbers don’t.”

54>>>50.