Comments Thread For: Jaron Ennis Manager: My Guy is Bigger, Stronger, Faster, Hits Harder Than Crawford

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Crawford still hasn't beaten anyone good at welterweight either...

I’d agree

As much as I like watching him fight and rate him, I don’t know why people have him pound for pound number one or two when his best when might be Postol.


I don’t believe in the “eye test”, I believe in proving it against other top fighters.

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Fair enough. And remember me when your dead wrong. I do agree with one thing tho.... he's going nowhere soon. I can't argue with that. But that's because all the elites won't fight him. Risk vs reward. It will take him some time. But he'll take care of business the entire time until he gets a breakthrough.

But what are you saying about American fighters? Spence, Crawford, Wilder, plenty of guys that were hyped and are "worthy". Fighters are fighters. I hate the nationality/race add ins.

Yeah, time will tell. But i'm absolutely confident in my assertion.

As for the others you named being legit... Is that some kind of joke or something? Wilder is the biggest hype job and coward the world of boxing has ever seen. He's a pathological liar and extremely delusional. He hasn't beaten a single good fighter in all this time. All he does is duck like a coward he is.

Spence hasn't done anything either. Against a finished and badly weight drained Brook, he didn't win a single round on my card in the first half of the fight when Brook was likely to have something until the drain started to show in the second half. Then a clash of heads caused the eye injury which made it worse for Brook. But up until that point, Brook was winning handily. Had it been a Brook without the move to middle and the damage he took from G, he would have dominated Spence. And the Porter fight was a gift. I had it 7-5 in rounds, but due to the KD, Porter won by a point. But a wins a win. Lots of people feel the same way.

Crawford has been in boxing hell for far too long. He only has two good wins over Postal and Gamboa. And Gamboa is a midget who lit him up and wobbled him in the first 4 rounds. Thurman and Porter seem willing to fight, but no legit negotiations have commenced. He needs to get his finger out big time because he doesn't have long left.

And that's not including most American fighters who get hyped without proving a bean. Just look at Russell. 5 years he's held that WBC title without beating a single good fighter. The only quality fighter he's fought he lost big against Loma. Davis, Andrade, Thurman, Danny G etc etc...

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Yeah, time will tell. But i'm absolutely confident in my assertion.

As for the others you named being legit... Is that some kind of joke or something? Wilder is the biggest hype job and coward the world of boxing has ever seen. He's a pathological liar and extremely delusional. He hasn't beaten a single good fighter in all this time. All he does is duck like a coward he is.

Spence hasn't done anything either. Against a finished and badly weight drained Brook, he didn't win a single round on my card in the first half of the fight when Brook was likely to have something until the drain started to show in the second half. Then a clash of heads caused the eye injury which made it worse for Brook. But up until that point, Brook was winning handily. Had it been a Brook without the move to middle and the damage he took from G, he would have dominated Spence. And the Porter fight was a gift. I had it 7-5 in rounds, but due to the KD, Porter won by a point. But a wins a win. Lots of people feel the same way.

Crawford has been in boxing hell for far too long. He only has two good wins over Postal and Gamboa. And Gamboa is a midget who lit him up and wobbled him in the first 4 rounds. Thurman and Porter seem willing to fight, but no legit negotiations have commenced. He needs to get his finger out big time because he doesn't have long left.

And that's not including most American fighters who get hyped without proving a bean. Just look at Russell. 5 years he's held that WBC title without beating a single good fighter. The only quality fighter he's fought he lost big against Loma. Davis, Andrade, Thurman, Danny G etc etc...

What are you expecting from your so called "American hype jobs"? Or whatever term you put with it?! I don't judge any fighter on what they "haven't done" yet. As long as they're still an active fighter. Those hype job guys that you just called out, are a combined 104-1-1 with 89 KOs!!! What do you want them to do, walk on water? How are any of them flops?! Sure maybe they don't handle their career how YOU want them to. But let a fighters career play out before you talk bad about them. At least if they're basically undefeated fighters. You're not being a fair critic by any means.

Truth is, there's always people like you that look at all the wrong stuff, just to prove your point. What about Spence traveling to Brooks backyard.... no credit there right? What about Fury getting a long count and should've been knocked out by Wilder and there would've been a clear ending.... nothing there right? What about Crawford dismantling Horn after Pac struggled with him? (Although pac was robbed of course)..... no respect there?

Point is, you can spin any narrative to make an argument. I don't believe any of the statements you made. And I'm also not making a case mine are accurate. Just playing devil's advocate.

The only answer I WANT from you on all this..... using your ridiculous criteria, who ISN'T a hype job in the sport?!

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What are you expecting from your so called "American hype jobs"? Or whatever term you put with it?! I don't judge any fighter on what they "haven't done" yet. As long as they're still an active fighter. Those hype job guys that you just called out, are a combined 104-1-1 with 89 KOs!!! What do you want them to do, walk on water? How are any of them flops?! Sure maybe they don't handle their career how YOU want them to. But let a fighters career play out before you talk bad about them. At least if they're basically undefeated fighters. You're not being a fair critic by any means.

Truth is, there's always people like you that look at all the wrong stuff, just to prove your point. What about Spence traveling to Brooks backyard.... no credit there right? What about Fury getting a long count and should've been knocked out by Wilder and there would've been a clear ending.... nothing there right? What about Crawford dismantling Horn after Pac struggled with him? (Although pac was robbed of course)..... no respect there?

Point is, you can spin any narrative to make an argument. I don't believe any of the statements you made. And I'm also not making a case mine are accurate. Just playing devil's advocate.

The only answer I WANT from you on all this..... using your ridiculous criteria, who ISN'T a hype job in the sport?!

These guys have been cast as P4P top fighters and "HOF'ers". Fighters that were going to strip everyone around them with ease only to duck for years at a time and then get brushed aside either with a couple of good wins max or nothing at all. There's hype, then there's these guys. It's just extremes.

Josh Taylor has had only 17 fights but has 3 good wins already over Postal, Prograis and Baranchyk.

Tyson Fury has had 31 fights and been out for 3 years in that time and destroyed his body, yet has a great win over Wlad, 2 good wins over Chisora, and 2 good wins over Wilder.

AJ has had 24 fights but has a very good win over Wlad, and has 4 good wins over Ruiz, Parker, Povetkin and Whyte.

Usyk has had only 17 fights but has 5 good wins over Breidis, Bellew, Gassiev, Huck and Glowacki.

Look at Loma. Saunders even has 3 good wins and he hasn't had his shlt together for the past 3 years. But he still has a better resume than every American baring Porter. That's shocking.

If you haven't seen the extreme nonsense that was being spewed about Wilder for the last 5 years as that coward ran from everyone and cherry picked in a way no fighter ever has, then you must be blind. So many over there were saying he was a HOF'er with that worthless resume and that he'd knock out the likes of Lewis, Klitschko's, M Tyson, Fury AJ etc etc.. It's scary. They have that hype job nobody Spence in the top 5 P4P when he isn't close to being top ten. Plenty of real fighters out there fighting real fights and picking up quality wins that matter. But doing it with only a handful of fights. Something that hasn't been achieved by North Americans with 5 times as many fights. That's what you call "Hype jobs". They talk about it, but run every time a fight comes calling.

Fury didn't get a long count unless you can't count or can't follow the simple task of using the Showtime clock from the moment he goes down to getting up. It's not hard.

Spence did travel. Fair play. But it's the quality of win, not the fact he travelled. Brook was drained and dead at the weight and had a bad injury that he was recovering from. It was clear he was going to win.

Pac is an old man who is practically finished so it doesn't really count against him at this point.

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These guys have been cast as P4P top fighters and "HOF'ers". Fighters that were going to strip everyone around them with ease only to duck for years at a time and then get brushed aside either with a couple of good wins max or nothing at all. There's hype, then there's these guys. It's just extremes.

Josh Taylor has had only 17 fights but has 3 good wins already over Postal, Prograis and Baranchyk.

Tyson Fury has had 31 fights and been out for 3 years in that time and destroyed his body, yet has a great win over Wlad, 2 good wins over Chisora, and 2 good wins over Wilder.

AJ has had 24 fights but has a very good win over Wlad, and has 4 good wins over Ruiz, Parker, Povetkin and Whyte.

Usyk has had only 17 fights but has 5 good wins over Breidis, Bellew, Gassiev, Huck and Glowacki.

Look at Loma. Saunders even has 3 good wins and he hasn't had his shlt together for the past 3 years. But he still has a better resume than every American baring Porter. That's shocking.

If you haven't seen the extreme nonsense that was being spewed about Wilder for the last 5 years as that coward ran from everyone and cherry picked in a way no fighter ever has, then you must be blind. So many over there were saying he was a HOF'er with that worthless resume and that he'd knock out the likes of Lewis, Klitschko's, M Tyson, Fury AJ etc etc.. It's scary. They have that hype job nobody Spence in the top 5 P4P when he isn't close to being top ten. Plenty of real fighters out there fighting real fights and picking up quality wins that matter. But doing it with only a handful of fights. Something that hasn't been achieved by North Americans with 5 times as many fights. That's what you call "Hype jobs". They talk about it, but run every time a fight comes calling.

Fury didn't get a long count unless you can't count or can't follow the simple task of using the Showtime clock from the moment he goes down to getting up. It's not hard.

Spence did travel. Fair play. But it's the quality of win, not the fact he travelled. Brook was drained and dead at the weight and had a bad injury that he was recovering from. It was clear he was going to win.

Pac is an old man who is practically finished so it doesn't really count against him at this point.

Goodness dude. Your ignorance is spewing. Baranchyk? That's not a quality win! Postol is at least known. And sure Prograis is solid. But the thing is, I'm not claiming JTaylor is a hype job. He seems to be the goods. I'm claiming that you're not being fair in YOUR assessment. Baranchyk, Postol, and Prograis is not even CLOSE to as good as Garcia, Garcia, Porter, and YOUR Brook! Bananchyk will never sniff another title. You're just a hometown boy that doesn't as things fair. Want me to give you my honest FAIR opinion..... I actually think Prograis will turn out to be garbage to be honest. And that takes away your ONE true quality win with Taylor. And again..... I'm NOT discrediting Taylor at all. I like dude. He can scrap! But your logic is not right.

Where does Usyk and AJ come into this conversation anyways? You just pick two random fighters? No, your picking your favorite nationality crap again. Why didn't you mention Pac or Canelo instead? The problem is, you only view "credible fights" as European fighters getting wins. What about Ramirez vs Hooker? It's as if you close your eyes to everything around you except the Europeans. Its hard to even talk with fans that don't have an open mind.

Back to Crawford.... he beat your boy Postol that you claim is a quality win, he beat gamboa which you say is a quality win (but since he isn't European you still threw shade on that win). And he beat Mean Machine. What? No love for him?! He's European. Had he beat Crawford, you'd put him on your list of best fighters ever. He didn't, so you forget about it.

What about your boys Hatton and Brook? Hype jobs. What about Govosdyk? Hype job. Crolla? It's all the same conversation man. As I've stated here a zillion times, you can find whatever you need to, to fit your narrative. It's all in the perspective.

Recognize fighters as fighters. Don't look at them with the imaginary flag on their back for judgement.

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Goodness dude. Your ignorance is spewing. Baranchyk? That's not a quality win! Postol is at least known. And sure Prograis is solid. But the thing is, I'm not claiming JTaylor is a hype job. He seems to be the goods. I'm claiming that you're not being fair in YOUR assessment. Baranchyk, Postol, and Prograis is not even CLOSE to as good as Garcia, Garcia, Porter, and YOUR Brook! Bananchyk will never sniff another title. You're just a hometown boy that doesn't as things fair. Want me to give you my honest FAIR opinion..... I actually think Prograis will turn out to be garbage to be honest. And that takes away your ONE true quality win with Taylor. And again..... I'm NOT discrediting Taylor at all. I like dude. He can scrap! But your logic is not right.

Where does Usyk and AJ come into this conversation anyways? You just pick two random fighters? No, your picking your favorite nationality crap again. Why didn't you mention Pac or Canelo instead? The problem is, you only view "credible fights" as European fighters getting wins. What about Ramirez vs Hooker? It's as if you close your eyes to everything around you except the Europeans. Its hard to even talk with fans that don't have an open mind.

Back to Crawford.... he beat your boy Postol that you claim is a quality win, he beat gamboa which you say is a quality win (but since he isn't European you still threw shade on that win). And he beat Mean Machine. What? No love for him?! He's European. Had he beat Crawford, you'd put him on your list of best fighters ever. He didn't, so you forget about it.

What about your boys Hatton and Brook? Hype jobs. What about Govosdyk? Hype job. Crolla? It's all the same conversation man. As I've stated here a zillion times, you can find whatever you need to, to fit your narrative. It's all in the perspective.

Recognize fighters as fighters. Don't look at them with the imaginary flag on their back for judgement.

Haha, did you just call me ignorant after writing this post? Irony is something North Americans should get into. You'd be in on the joke then.

Do you think Europe is a nationality? Your Geography is lacking badly too. You can't see things for what they are because you want to pretend that North Americans aren't a joke across the board with many ills that are just too pathetic to mention. Yet you say i'm biased here? Irony again i see.

I picked fighters who have fought the right fights at the right time and not wasted years ducking everyone after shouting their mouths off about what they're going to do instead of actually doing it. And that's without the grotesque cherry picking that fighters like Canelo do. He only seeks out when there is weakness and they're in a bad spot instead of fighting them when they're hot. Throw in the fact he weakens fighters all the time with weight restrictions and gets countless robberies going his way, then you should feel shame when mentioning that protected cheating joke excuse of a prize fighter.

Taylor isn't more proven than Spence?? That is one horrible joke right there. Danny Garcia? The guy who hasn't had a win of any quality since Amir Khan? The guy who gets more robberies than Canelo? You think that would be a good win at this point at Welter? Why would you think such nonsense? Mikey was a Lightweight. It meant nothing. He didn't beat Porter, he got a gift as i said in one of my posts. I also said that Brook was damaged and meant nothing either at that point, but you ignored that as well. Spence personifies what a hype job is. But due to your clear bias and desperation to see your guys as something they clearly are not, you have to end up in fantasy land. Which is a major problem when talking to North Americans. Face reality before it's too late otherwise everyone over there will just end up as a punchline.

If Prograis is already a good win, why would future fights dictate how we value the win? What are you on about? You can't see your hypocrisy? (Another North American trait). Where is Gamboa after losing to Crawford? Danny Garcia does nothing but lose to anyone that matters or has close fights with shot fighters. Brook is even more f3cked after the Spence fight. He hasn't got any better nor had any quality wins. What is Mikey doing these days? Huh?? Yet you think we can just wipe Prograis as a nothing win should he never win another good fight in the future? Haha. Great logic. You really should stop posting back to me as you're embarrassing yourself now. Which is a big problem for you guys over there. Which is entirely the problem. You're not changing my mind, just confirming why i and others have these views. We see the truth, not a delusion made up in our minds because we can't face up to the horrible reality that is staring us full in the face.

Did you also not see Postal beating Ramirez like Zepeda did only to be ripped off at the age of 36 and so much time out of the ring? I'm sure you can find a video of the fight if you didn't.

Taylor did all this within 17 fights. Not 40 or so. But you want to brush over that point too? Do you even take any notice of my valid points? No, you just continue to be ignorant and write a load of biased nonsense. Sorry, but it's the truth. But you had the cheek to accuse me.

AJ and Usyk were random fighters? You asked who i rated and who were proven. I gave you two legit names who have done more than any North American but with only a handful of fights. Do you even know at this point what you're saying? Maybe the dose isn't high enough or something...

Why didn't i mention Manny?? I did. But as i said, he's way past his best at this point. We know how proven he is. That isn't even up for debate. But do you think he's North American? Did you even go to school?

I only mention European fighters as credible? Well, i wasn't going to write down every fighter, just enough to make my point. But if you want fighters outside of Europe that are credible, then here you go... Inoue, casimero, Estrada, Gonzalez etc etc... Happy? Not my fault if most of the best come from Europe. It seems you can't handle that though and want to delude yourself otherwise. Must be a nationalist thing.

I give credit to Crawford for the Postal win. I give credit for the Gamboa win too. But he was much smaller. Are you denying this or something?

"Mean Machine"??? That dude is a nobody. Why would i rate him? I'd class him as one of the best ever had he beaten Crawford? Your assumptions aren't just comical, they're very deeply sad.

Hatton was a great fighter that proved himself. The only two losses were to prime Pac and Cortez. If you're claiming hype because he lost to those two, i'd suggest you look at all the fighters over your way throughout history and see how many lost fights to much lesser competition.

Brook was forced up in weight because he was being ducked by all the cowards at Welter. They all turned down big money offers and never sent any counter offers. The only one that would accept was Vargas, but he wanted too much money. The first offer he got was over twice his biggest payday but he turned it down. Even his own team were confused as to why. So that left the A side who actually sells tickets taking less of the money if Vargas was given what he asked for. Which is never going to happen. But over your way this is the kind of shlt that always happens. Brook had waited long enough for a big fight. He was good as his win over Porter shows. But he wasn't allowed to do much more because he was frozen out by the usual American cowards. Don't make me school you on how many times Americans have ducked us over the years. It's disgusting.

Who the f3ck hyped Crolla? You're getting sillier by the paragraph. and Gvozdyk was nothing but a good fighter. Not someone who was going to kill everyone and become an ATG like your lot are constantly cast off as.

If your reply ignores my valid points again or includes ridiculous assumptions, i'm just going to ignore you. It will be a waste of my time. That's why i don't post as much these days on here. Too many extreme Americans making this place stink with their madness.

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Haha, did you just call me ignorant after writing this post? Irony is something North Americans should get into. You'd be in on the joke then.

Do you think Europe is a nationality? Your Geography is lacking badly too. You can't see things for what they are because you want to pretend that North Americans aren't a joke across the board with many ills that are just too pathetic to mention. Yet you say i'm biased here? Irony again i see.

I picked fighters who have fought the right fights at the right time and not wasted years ducking everyone after shouting their mouths off about what they're going to do instead of actually doing it. And that's without the grotesque cherry picking that fighters like Canelo do. He only seeks out when there is weakness and they're in a bad spot instead of fighting them when they're hot. Throw in the fact he weakens fighters all the time with weight restrictions and gets countless robberies going his way, then you should feel shame when mentioning that protected cheating joke excuse of a prize fighter.

Taylor isn't more proven than Spence?? That is one horrible joke right there. Danny Garcia? The guy who hasn't had a win of any quality since Amir Khan? The guy who gets more robberies than Canelo? You think that would be a good win at this point at Welter? Why would you think such nonsense? Mikey was a Lightweight. It meant nothing. He didn't beat Porter, he got a gift as i said in one of my posts. I also said that Brook was damaged and meant nothing either at that point, but you ignored that as well. Spence personifies what a hype job is. But due to your clear bias and desperation to see your guys as something they clearly are not, you have to end up in fantasy land. Which is a major problem when talking to North Americans. Face reality before it's too late otherwise everyone over there will just end up as a punchline.

If Prograis is already a good win, why would future fights dictate how we value the win? What are you on about? You can't see your hypocrisy? (Another North American trait). Where is Gamboa after losing to Crawford? Danny Garcia does nothing but lose to anyone that matters or has close fights with shot fighters. Brook is even more f3cked after the Spence fight. He hasn't got any better nor had any quality wins. What is Mikey doing these days? Huh?? Yet you think we can just wipe Prograis as a nothing win should he never win another good fight in the future? Haha. Great logic. You really should stop posting back to me as you're embarrassing yourself now. Which is a big problem for you guys over there. Which is entirely the problem. You're not changing my mind, just confirming why i and others have these views. We see the truth, not a delusion made up in our minds because we can't face up to the horrible reality that is staring us full in the face.

Did you also not see Postal beating Ramirez like Zepeda did only to be ripped off at the age of 36 and so much time out of the ring? I'm sure you can find a video of the fight if you didn't.

Taylor did all this within 17 fights. Not 40 or so. But you want to brush over that point too? Do you even take any notice of my valid points? No, you just continue to be ignorant and write a load of biased nonsense. Sorry, but it's the truth. But you had the cheek to accuse me.

AJ and Usyk were random fighters? You asked who i rated and who were proven. I gave you two legit names who have done more than any North American but with only a handful of fights. Do you even know at this point what you're saying? Maybe the dose isn't high enough or something...

Why didn't i mention Manny?? I did. But as i said, he's way past his best at this point. We know how proven he is. That isn't even up for debate. But do you think he's North American? Did you even go to school?

I only mention European fighters as credible? Well, i wasn't going to write down every fighter, just enough to make my point. But if you want fighters outside of Europe that are credible, then here you go... Inoue, casimero, Estrada, Gonzalez etc etc... Happy? Not my fault if most of the best come from Europe. It seems you can't handle that though and want to delude yourself otherwise. Must be a nationalist thing.

I give credit to Crawford for the Postal win. I give credit for the Gamboa win too. But he was much smaller. Are you denying this or something?

"Mean Machine"??? That dude is a nobody. Why would i rate him? I'd class him as one of the best ever had he beaten Crawford? Your assumptions aren't just comical, they're very deeply sad.

Hatton was a great fighter that proved himself. The only two losses were to prime Pac and Cortez. If you're claiming hype because he lost to those two, i'd suggest you look at all the fighters over your way throughout history and see how many lost fights to much lesser competition.

Brook was forced up in weight because he was being ducked by all the cowards at Welter. They all turned down big money offers and never sent any counter offers. The only one that would accept was Vargas, but he wanted too much money. The first offer he got was over twice his biggest payday but he turned it down. Even his own team were confused as to why. So that left the A side who actually sells tickets taking less of the money if Vargas was given what he asked for. Which is never going to happen. But over your way this is the kind of shlt that always happens. Brook had waited long enough for a big fight. He was good as his win over Porter shows. But he wasn't allowed to do much more because he was frozen out by the usual American cowards. Don't make me school you on how many times Americans have ducked us over the years. It's disgusting.

Who the f3ck hyped Crolla? You're getting sillier by the paragraph. and Gvozdyk was nothing but a good fighter. Not someone who was going to kill everyone and become an ATG like your lot are constantly cast off as.

If your reply ignores my valid points again or includes ridiculous assumptions, i'm just going to ignore you. It will be a waste of my time. That's why i don't post as much these days on here. Too many extreme Americans making this place stink with their madness.

Nobody is ignoring your valid points. I'm proving yours invalid. Saying Joshua is great after he just got beat by "one of us" is ridiculous. And my "European" comments are based on your thought process. Not mine. Because you only named the same type of fighters..... the ones the fight "over there". And not in the real world of boxing. Your boy stepped foot over here and got beat by a fat man. You see how silly this is? You just don't see fighters as fighters. You have a certain brand you root for and give respect to. And not the quality of the man himself. You group fighters

The only thing I'm going to respond to, to clarify, is Prograis. I'm saying that you counted him as a quality win for Taylor. Which it most certainly IS. But my add on was a prediction, in that Prograis is not going to be great down the road. The reason I pointed this prediction out, was not to touch on our war of words. But to prove to you that I'm not biased like you. I can say that I believe "one of us" isn't great (if that were to play out that way). The best example I can give is Govodsyk..... had he kept winning and fighting you'd claim him the best ever. Since he didn't, now to you he's just average. You ride the **** of the two or three great fighters you have (and I agree they are great. Taylor, Usyk, maybe that's it! But I agree).

Final point. You see how I can say stuff like "I agree" and "I see your point". You're not capable of that. Good bye

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Oh and one add on, I did start this war of words with you before I saw what happened with baranchyk. I wish no I'll will on any fighters. Glad he's ok. (But he's even less of a quality win now!

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Nobody is ignoring your valid points. I'm proving yours invalid. Saying Joshua is great after he just got beat by "one of us" is ridiculous. And my "European" comments are based on your thought process. Not mine. Because you only named the same type of fighters..... the ones the fight "over there". And not in the real world of boxing. Your boy stepped foot over here and got beat by a fat man. You see how silly this is? You just don't see fighters as fighters. You have a certain brand you root for and give respect to. And not the quality of the man himself. You group fighters

The only thing I'm going to respond to, to clarify, is Prograis. I'm saying that you counted him as a quality win for Taylor. Which it most certainly IS. But my add on was a prediction, in that Prograis is not going to be great down the road. The reason I pointed this prediction out, was not to touch on our war of words. But to prove to you that I'm not biased like you. I can say that I believe "one of us" isn't great (if that were to play out that way). The best example I can give is Govodsyk..... had he kept winning and fighting you'd claim him the best ever. Since he didn't, now to you he's just average. You ride the **** of the two or three great fighters you have (and I agree they are great. Taylor, Usyk, maybe that's it! But I agree).

Final point. You see how I can say stuff like "I agree" and "I see your point". You're not capable of that. Good bye

Be specific in what points of mine you made "Invalid"? You're the one making invalid points with assumption, contradictions, hypocrisy and all out ******ity.

When did i say AJ was great??? See, there you go again. Have you got a disability or something? AJ is a very good fighter with more to prove if he's to reach the level of great. Same with Fury. We actually judge our fighters properly and not cast them off as ATG's with nothing to show for it like Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Marciano... All of them combined don't even bring back a great resume. Most grotesquely overrated fighters the world of boxing has ever seen to insulting levels. I never bought it, and never will. I'm not backwards.

The fighters i named don't fight in the real world of boxing???? The very best in the world against proper opponents and in stadiums/sold out arenas and not a load of garbage in front of a few people like you do over there? Stop the glue sniffing now. Your brains can't afford to lose any more cells.

AJ did lose to Ruiz after making the mistake of swinging square on with hooks against the smaller man with faster hands and paid the price. And what?? Do you know anything about boxing history to see the many big name fighters had the same thing happen to them in losing for what ever reason to a big underdog? Turpin/Robinson. Foreman/Young. Morales/Raheem. Barrera/Jones. It happens. But to come back in an immediate rematch when most were saying you'd be beat again in the same fashion shows what AJ is all about. He dominated after identifying the problem in the first fight and left Ruiz looing like a cabbage and taking back what was his.

I don't judge fighters by their personality but by who they fight and beat. It doesn't matter where they come from. But if so many cowards and cheats come from one area, then i'm going to acknowledge it. You should try it some time.

You thinking i only have "One brand" i root for or respect has been created in your head and your head alone. But after getting a real good taste of your thoughts on this thread this kind of nonsense is now to be expected. Jesus! Crazy doesn't do it justice.

Who cares whether Prograis becomes great down the road or not?? Who spoke of this other than your head? He was a good win and that's what i claimed. Anything else has been created in your head with assumptions for no good reason. You're arguing with yourself here and making strawmen to the point where i think your profession is a farmers scarecrow.

If Gvozdyk would have kept winning against quality opponents i would then rate him higher like i would anybody else. That's how it works. But the best ever??? There's no point in telling you again about silly assumptions as you'll not listen will you? So i won't bother again. Just continue with the argument between you and your head. I call Gvozdyk a good fighter and no more because that's all he proved.

Point out where i was biased and painted a picture that wasn't true about a fighter? The only bias here is with you. But you're too BIASED to see it. It's irony at it's finest. Even a child would put up a better argument than you. At least they wouldn't be making things up in their head and producing strawmen all over the place.

[Sid-Knee]

Oh and one add on, I did start this war of words with you before I saw what happened with baranchyk. I wish no I'll will on any fighters. Glad he's ok. (But he's even less of a quality win now!

If he's less of a quality win now, i hope you keep the same energy for the likes of Foreman and Ali over Frazier and Hopkins over Trinidad and the likes. Wouldn't want to be a hypocrite now would we?