The Charlos won last night. Sorry guys.

[_Rexy_]

We got people here claiming that the fight wasn't even close and it was actually a domination. I once said into a thread that the fight was competetive and close, was a 7-5 for Charlo for me and can't call a robbery, but one guy then said, it was actually a 9-3, and tried to convince me Charlo dominated.

People see what they want to see.

[whollisboxing]

You sound drunk

1) the cards showed that Derevy never had a chance, based on what everyone was saying was going on in the fight. People generally, from what I was reading on here and on twitter, seemed to feel anywhere from 6-6, to maybe 8-4 to Charlo was a reasonable score. Everyone agrees the 10-2 card was awful as it was a close competitive fight.

I commented that it is sad that in a lot of fights, the B side has no chance to win on the cards, as was obviously the case here. I didn't need to watch the fight to know that. I just needed to look at what everyone felt about the fight and then look at the cards.

2) I then watched the fight myself to see how impressive Charlo looked, fully expecting him to win in impressive fashion. I didn't see that and I scored the fight according to what I saw.

Cry about it

It definitely wasn't a 10-2 type of fight and I had it 8-4 for Charlo. I could see 6-6 if you favored Derevyanchenko's heart and relentless aggression but I favored Jermall's clean punching and I feel like he dictated the pace for the most part.

[whollisboxing]

Jermall sc****d that fight. His middleweight run is still lacklastre - missing that standout performance. If that was it, the bar is being set way too low

Jermell looks to be the dominant character at 154 though. His brother should take some notes

Well Derevyanchenko is and was seen as a top middleweight and a legit test going into the fight so I don't think anyone was expecting a blowout either way.

It's funny because if Charlo had destroyed him then people would say that Derevyanchenko is damaged goods after the GGG fight.

[Boxing-1013]

It definitely wasn't a 10-2 type of fight and I had it 8-4 for Charlo. I could see 6-6 if you favored Derevyanchenko's heart and relentless aggression but I favored Jermall's clean punching and I feel like he dictated the pace for the most part.

At least you seem reasonable and dispassionate about the fight, which is good. It was definitely a competitive fight.

[Boxing-1013]

Well Derevyanchenko is and was seen as a top middleweight and a legit test going into the fight so I don't think anyone was expecting a blowout either way.

It's funny because if Charlo had destroyed him then people would say that Derevyanchenko is damaged goods after the GGG fight.

No one at 160 would look great against Derevy. I think that has been proven. Maybe now he is starting to become damaged goods, but it would likely be from accumulation of multiple tough fights/losses now and not just 1 fight.

[whollisboxing]

At least you seem reasonable and dispassionate about the fight, which is good. It was definitely a competitive fight.

Yeah I do my best to remain objective. I'm looking forward to seeing where both guys go from here. I would like to see Charlo face another elite opponent. I know Canelo is a long shot but I would be fine with a Demetrius Andrade or Chris Eubank Jr. if it's a matter of promotional affiliation.

[whollisboxing]

No one at 160 would look great against Derevy. I think that has been proven. Maybe now he is starting to become damaged goods, but it would likely be from accumulation of multiple tough fights/losses now and not just 1 fight.

I like Derevyanchenko and I would like to see him get another meaningful fight or two while he still has something left in the tank.

He will always have trouble with tall, rangy guys but he's a tough out for anyone as long as his face holds up.

[Boxing-1013]

Yeah I do my best to remain objective. I'm looking forward to seeing where both guys go from here. I would like to see Charlo face another elite opponent. I know Canelo is a long shot but I would be fine with a Demetrius Andrade or Chris Eubank Jr. if it's a matter of promotional affiliation.

I like Derevyanchenko and I would like to see him get another meaningful fight or two while he still has something left in the tank.

He will always have trouble with tall, rangy guys but he's a tough out for anyone as long as his face holds up.

Agreed, well said my friend. Derevy is a tough fight for anyone. Just doesn't give up and has a good workrate and toughness.

[Damn Wicked]

What notes? 160 is much better division. Jermall also looked dominant when he was still at 154. Jermall did a good job against Derevyanchenko. But GGG and Canelo would be even much tougher fights, Andrade also. So it goes when you fight top competition.

I agree. Jermall is the better fighter of the two brothers. He fought the much better opponent on Saturday too.

[techliam]

Well Derevyanchenko is and was seen as a top middleweight and a legit test going into the fight so I don't think anyone was expecting a blowout either way.

It's funny because if Charlo had destroyed him then people would say that Derevyanchenko is damaged goods after the GGG fight.

People may say that, but I wouldn’t have. I couldn’t care less what others say might have said, but thanks for letting me know. Had Charlo destroyed Chenko he’d be propelled to the top of the division

He was seen as a legit test because Jermall has been a middleweight for 3 years, and has nothing to show for it. Granted the division isn’t that strong anymore but in 3 years, not a single top 10 guy? His highlight is the struggle against Korobov.

Meanwhile Jermell has been fighting the who’s who of 154 and stands atop of a fairly stacked division. Total night and day