Multi-weight champs vs. Undisputed champs? What is more impressive?

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    #41
    Originally posted by Zaryu
    In this day and age undisputed is hands down more impressive than being a multi weight Champion.

    Back in the one (maybe two) world title days per weightclass, being a multiple weight champion (with less weight classes too) was very impressive. Today, in theory, you could be the fourth best fighter in three divisions and be a triple weight world champion.

    Becoming an undisputed champion today is the equivalent of being a world champion in the one belt era. It means you would have had to fight the best fighters in the division to win the belt, and you would need to continue facing the best available challengers to keep your champion status.
    Generally I agree with you. But beating 4 belt holders doesn't necessarily mean you beat the 4 best in the division. Also vacant title fights are very common these days.

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      #42
      Originally posted by lokkebassen123
      Lets say multi-division= 2-4 weight classes. Undisputed meaning every major belt - WBA, WBC, IBF og WBO. So with that said, in your honest opinion, in present day boxing, which should be respected more? & why??
      No definitive answer can fairly be given to this question.
      Context matters.

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        #43
        Originally posted by lokkebassen123
        Lets say multi-division= 2-4 weight classes. Undisputed meaning every major belt - WBA, WBC, IBF og WBO. So with that said, in your honest opinion, in present day boxing, which should be respected more? & why??
        - -If you gotta ask, you don't deserve to know.

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        • Zaryu
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          #44
          Originally posted by Rick Taylor
          Generally I agree with you. But beating 4 belt holders doesn't necessarily mean you beat the 4 best in the division. Also vacant title fights are very common these days.
          There will be exceptions, but for the most part it will be accurate. Additionally, if the undisputed champion defends all his belts, eventually there will be no question he has defeated the best fighters in the division.

          It is also a testament of the fighter's willingness to face the best in the division. Winning titles in different weight class makes it much easier to have favorable selection.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Zaryu
            There will be exceptions, but for the most part it will be accurate. Additionally, if the undisputed champion defends all his belts, eventually there will be no question he has defeated the best fighters in the division.

            It is also a testament of the fighter's willingness to face the best in the division. Winning titles in different weight class makes it much easier to have favorable selection.
            One factor to consider is gift decisions.

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              #46
              Ultimately it all depends on who you beat to do it. That said, it's probably easier to win multiple belts without fighting great opposition that it is to do the same while becoming undisputed.

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                #47
                Ultimately, I guess it's about who you beat and how relevant they are when you beat them.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Scopedog
                  Ultimately it all depends on who you beat to do it. That said, it's probably easier to win multiple belts without fighting great opposition that it is to do the same while becoming undisputed.
                  Let's say hypothetically ramirez and taylor fight. and ramirez gets a gift decision over taylor. on paper it might look good to casuals but in reality ramirez is just a bum who gets lots of gift decisions.

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                    #49
                    i think it really depends on the quality opponents. but i guess multi-weight champions are far harder to achieve than being undisputed since you just circling around your own weight division. compared that to different weights which has every quality of opponents especially the champion itself (which i think wont become a champion for no reason.).

                    here's my sample logic.
                    undisputed - you need to beat atleast a single man who already has the completing belts.
                    multi-weight - you need to beat every single champs in every division..

                    we have mutiple undisputed boxers in history but there's only one 8 division world champion. i also think it could be 10 divisions if pacman didn't skip 2 weights early in his career.
                    Last edited by blowblow; 10-03-2020, 08:48 PM.

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                      #50
                      Flyweight - Not been undisputed since the IBF became a major body. last WBC/WBA undisputed was 65

                      Super flyweight - No undisputed champions in the history of boxing

                      Bantamweight - Not been undisputed since the IBF became a major body. last WBC/WBA undisputed was 72

                      Featherweight - Not been undisputed since the IBF became a major body. last WBC/WBA undisputed was 64

                      Super featherweight - Not been undisputed since the IBF became a major body. last WBC/WBA undisputed was 67

                      Lightweight - Not been undisputed since the WBO became a major body. last WBC/WBA/IBF undisputed was 92

                      Light welterweight - TC is the only 4 body undisputed champion

                      Welterweight - Not been undisputed since the WBO became a major body. last WBC/WBA/IBF undisputed was 06

                      Light middleweight - Not been undisputed since the WBO became a major body. last WBC/WBA/IBF undisputed was 04

                      Middleweight - 2 four-body undisputed champions, Bernard Hopkins and Jermain Taylor, 06 was the last time this division had one champion.

                      Super middleweight - Never

                      Light heavyweight - Not been undisputed since the WBO became a major body. last WBC/WBA/IBF undisputed was 02

                      Cruiserweight - Usyk 2019

                      Heavyweight - Not been undisputed since the WBO became a major body. last WBC/WBA/IBF undisputed was 2000.



                      I don't have a point, I was just interested in know when the last undisputed was for each division and how many four body undisputeds there have ever been so I did that then shared it.

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