Did Charlo land a scoring punch in the first round?

[Boxing-1013]

I aint got a problem with a draw, but SD did not win 7 rounds. That's crazy. There were close rounds and I think he won 4 clearly, but 7? are you serious? You can't be.

How can you be OK with a draw but not one more round the other way lol. And also say he won 4 clearly and there were close rounds but he can't get to 7 lol.

I mean in a way I see your point. Like I feel this fight was either 7-5 SD or 6-6. I can't really see 7 for Charlo.

But if you can watch 1.6. 10 11 and 12 and really come away saying that those aren't clear rounds for Derevy, then OK, that's fine. That's certainly how I saw them. And then a couple others went his way as well, as I usually split the close rounds.

[Boxing-1013]

SD controlled the whole round. You can't give a fighter a round that loses 2 minutes and 30 seconds of a round, but stuns his opponent at the end of the round. Unless that opponent was hurt SERIOUSLY, 1 punch doesn't win a round unless a knockdown is involved.

No I was saying that if you gave Charlo 8 rounds I wasn't calling you out. I just don't see that at all, though many are saying that.

I agree that round 8 was Sergei's the whole way and then Charlo stole on my card at the end. Those are tough to score sometimes. When one guy is clearly ahead but then gets hurt, especially at the end of the round. Makes it easier to go with the guy who just hurt the other guy.

[lolpz]

I cannot believe people thought Derevychenko won this fight but didn't give Derevychenko the Golovkin fight when he ACTUALLY clearly won that one.

Charlo controlled the whole fight, he was the ring general and jabbed Derevychenko's face off all night then unloaded bomb power shots on him. He hurt and wobbled him multiple times and busted up his face horribly. He landed the cleaner harder punches. He also displayed better defense overall. Effective aggression, ring generalship, hard clean shots, and defense. There is not one category Charlo didn't own other then maybe aggression, that was split down the middle. Charlo won this fight clearly.

What I said above applies to Derevychenko when he fought GGG...he basically dominated that fight from judging criteria as well besides the knockdown, he actually displayed better defense then Golovkin believe it or not as well.

[SplitSecond]

My card:

1 - Sergei - landed maybe 5-6 scoring shots to Charlo's maybe 2.
2 - Charlo - close round but 1-1 feels right. Can't have one guy up 2-0
3 - Charlo - clear, was winning it even before the punch that wobbled it Derevy
4 - Sergei - very close, thought he probably nicked it at the end. Certainly the last 30 seconds helped him.

Could see 3-1 Charlo at this point. But 2-2 feels like the right score. Not much separating them at all at this point.

5 - Sergei - 3-2 either way at this point. No real way to have this 4-1 either way.
6 - Sergei - clear. 3-3 Feels like the right score at this time but could see 4-2 to Sergei. Great round btw. Some great inside fighting that Sergei just did some better work in. Charlo showed some good fighting too and some good toughness. Sergei ripped some body shots that would have hurt many guys.

7 - Charlo - I honestly feel like it was Sergei's round again but Charlo ended it well, and you see Derevy's eye swell at the end of the round. 5-2 seems a bit harsh against Charlo but I am not seeing the dominant performance others are seeing. He is getting the fight taken to him by Derevy.

8 - Charlo - great round!! Was honestly Sergei's all the way, until that last exchange, where Charlo hurt him and you have to give him the round. I am not seeing the great jab that others have mentioned though, and Derevy is doing very well in there imo and is doing the better. Honest to God Jack Culcay is doing better vs Sergei than Charlo GGG or Jacobs lol.

Side note - Sergei's face is working against him. Charlo's working for him. Charlo not marked up at all and Sergei showing serious wear around that eye. Makes it seem like he is losing the fight though I feel he is pretty clearly doing the better work routinely, certainly in these middle rounds.

9 - Charlo - clear, great round from him. His best, most consistent round so far. I think Charlo looks emboldened by the cut on Sergei's eye, and Sergei seems conscious of it. As a result Charlo relaxed and picked his spots well, and Sergei looked cautious.

5-4 Charlo just feels like the right score. Anything different just seems off.

10 - Sergei - clear - 5-5

11 - Sergei - pretty clear 6 -5. I am not really understanding the fawning over Charlo's performance at this point. Both guys tiring a bit, especially Charlo.

12 - Sergei - clear - 7-5 Sergei. Could see 6-6. No idea what some of y'all were looking at lol. Wow.

Basically this for anyone that bothered to pay attention instead of score based on “geography” or “who’s fighting their fight” kind of lingo dipshts like to use. The commentary was god awful, they gave Charlo the 10th literally because Derevyanchenko backed off. Charlo somehow “won the round back” in the two seconds after Derevyanchenko backed off from stunning and pummelling him lol.

Just something I want to say. It’s weird watching a fight like this with no roaring crowd.

[Ca$ual Fan]

That’s what you call a default giving round. If the round is pretty much even with nothing much happening, it’s an automatic Charlo round. By piling up those rounds, which were plenty btw, then you get a wide scorecard which would look like a dominant victory.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

I watched the fight and I also don't think the score cards were too accurate either and that the commentary was pretty biased.

You cant say things like "oh Charlo is stalking Derevyanchenko" but two seconds later say that "Derevyanchenko has been coming forward all fight".

Its also pretty interesting how the same people who said "jabs don't count" when it came to GGG/Canelo also have changed their minds all of a suddem when Charlo was pretty much only landing jabs.

Charlo looked a lot better than I thought he would but the scores he got are very much Canelo scores.

There are already people crying that oh, you just don't like this guy because he's black! But we're too ****ing broke to buy the card lmfao or find a place to watch it.

I watched it and 118-110 was a nasty card. I could have seen 7-5, 6-6, or 5-7. It was a competitive fight.

[Boxing-1013]

Basically this for anyone that bothered to pay attention instead of score based on “geography” or “who’s fighting their fight” kind of lingo dipshts like to use. The commentary was god awful, they gave Charlo the 10th literally because Derevyanchenko backed off. Charlo somehow “won the round back” in the two seconds after Derevyanchenko backed off from stunning and pummelling him lol.

Just something I want to say. It’s weird watching a fight like this with no roaring crowd.

Yeah I always watch without sound. Just to tune out all the noise. And was surprised at how close and competitive the fight was based on what many were saying. Derevy was the better man last night imo by a small margin. Just sad that depending on where/who you fight, you have no chance to win on the cards in boxing. Shouldn't be like that, and we all know it happens. Yet when it happens for 'our guy' people pretend it doesn't exist.

That’s what you call a default giving round. If the round is pretty much even with nothing much happening, it’s an automatic Charlo round. By piling up those rounds, which were plenty btw, then you get a wide scorecard which would look like a dominant victory.

Yes, pretty much this. Some guys get all the 'nothing happened' rounds from some people. People swearing Charlo dominated or something, I mean it's embarrassing. What were they even watching? Are people really that swayed by commentary? I assume it was pretty biased.

I watched the fight and I also don't think the score cards were too accurate either and that the commentary was pretty biased.

You cant say things like "oh Charlo is stalking Derevyanchenko" but two seconds later say that "Derevyanchenko has been coming forward all fight".

Its also pretty interesting how the same people who said "jabs don't count" when it came to GGG/Canelo also have changed their minds all of a suddem when Charlo was pretty much only landing jabs.

Charlo looked a lot better than I thought he would but the scores he got are very much Canelo scores.

There are already people crying that oh, you just don't like this guy because he's black! But we're too ****ing broke to buy the card lmfao or find a place to watch it.

I watched it and 118-110 was a nasty card. I could have seen 7-5, 6-6, or 5-7. It was a competitive fight.

I was honestly hoping to see Charlo do something in the last 3 rounds for me to give him at least a draw on my card, and in that case you can always see it going one the other way, so I wouldn't have had an issue with him winning in that case. But watching it back I can't see how Derevy doesn't clearly win the 1 6 10 11 and 12th rounds.

Oh well man, at least some of us saw the fight for what it was. Nice performance from both guys, and it showed Charlo can hang with anyone probably at 160. But I was honestly expecting a bit more from him, power wise at least. Derevy is a tough guy though and tough to time, so that was probably part of it. Good fight and told me more or less what I wanted to know, that Charlo can compete with top guys at 160.

[Boxing-1013]

I cannot believe people thought Derevychenko won this fight but didn't give Derevychenko the Golovkin fight when he ACTUALLY clearly won that one.

Charlo controlled the whole fight, he was the ring general and jabbed Derevychenko's face off all night then unloaded bomb power shots on him. He hurt and wobbled him multiple times and busted up his face horribly. He landed the cleaner harder punches. He also displayed better defense overall. Effective aggression, ring generalship, hard clean shots, and defense. There is not one category Charlo didn't own other then maybe aggression, that was split down the middle. Charlo won this fight clearly.

What I said above applies to Derevychenko when he fought GGG...he basically dominated that fight from judging criteria as well besides the knockdown, he actually displayed better defense then Golovkin believe it or not as well.

You score fights round by round. Sergei did very well vs GGG but some of the rounds where he outworked GGG, GGG landed the best shots of the round, to make those close. GGG also had the KD and a couple other pretty clear rounds, meaning he only needed to get to 6 to get a win. I had it 6-6 live for GGG-SD, and 7-5 to GGG on watch. If someone gave Derevy 7 rounds I can't be mad at at them for that.

Sergei pretty clearly won the 1 6 10 11 and 12th round last night. He was in quite a few more rounds as well. Charlo pretty clearly took the rounds you mentioned where he hurt Derevy, I think that happened in 2 rounds, maybe 3. But where is this dominant jab you are speaking of? Where did that happen?

Try watching the fight without sound and see what your score is, maybe the announcers swayed people. Especially try watching 1, 6 10 11 and 12 and try to say that they aren't clear for Derevy.

[lolpz]

You score fights round by round. Sergei did very well vs GGG but some of the rounds where he outworked GGG, GGG landed the best shots of the round, to make those close. GGG also had the KD and a couple other pretty clear rounds, meaning he only needed to get to 6 to get a win. I had it 6-6 live for GGG-SD, and 7-5 to GGG on watch. If someone gave Derevy 7 rounds I can't be mad at at them for that.

Sergei pretty clearly won the 1 6 10 11 and 12th round last night. He was in quite a few more rounds as well. Charlo pretty clearly took the rounds you mentioned where he hurt Derevy, I think that happened in 2 rounds, maybe 3. But where is this dominant jab you are speaking of? Where did that happen?

Try watching the fight without sound and see what your score is, maybe the announcers swayed people. Especially try watching 1, 6 10 11 and 12 and try to say that they aren't clear for Derevy.

Derevychenko was never in control in the Charlo fight...yes round by round that’s the criteria I set for round by round. Charlo did what I said round by round. How can Derevychenko clearly win rounds he wasn’t in control in? Only round he controlled was when he hurt Charlo with a low blow. That was the only clear Sergei round, every other round you can give Derevychenko was close and Charlo was controlling everything for the most part and landing the cleaner blows.

Derevychenko landed in bunches vs GGG and busted him up. Against Charlo he landed mostly non-clean body shots. Scoring power shots that weren’t clean. This wasn’t the case against GGG, everything was clear in that fight for Sergei.

[Boxing-1013]

Derevychenko was never in control in the Charlo fight...yes round by round that’s the criteria I set for round by round. Charlo did what I said round by round. How can Derevychenko clearly win rounds he wasn’t in control in? Only round he controlled was when he hurt Charlo with a low blow. That was the only clear Sergei round, every other round you can give Derevychenko was close and Charlo was controlling everything for the most part and landing the cleaner blows.

Derevychenko landed in bunches vs GGG and busted him up. Against Charlo he landed mostly non-clean body shots. Scoring power shots that weren’t clean. This wasn’t the case against GGG, everything was clear in that fight for Sergei.

Man what were you (and many others) watching lol. As I said, watch the fight without sound. Watch those 5 rounds I mentioned and lmk how you think Charlo had a chance to win any of them. He did hardly anything in any of those rounds. And Derevy did quite a bit in them.