Did Charlo land a scoring punch in the first round?

[Larry the boss]

so im guessing you had GGG losing right?

[Boxing-1013]

so im guessing you had GGG losing right?

I had them scored very similarly yes. Not exactly the same though. Derevy won more clear rounds vs Charlo. He did better consistent work vs GGG (but it was good vs Charlo too) but GGG often made rounds close by landing the best shot or shots of the round when he was getting outworked. And obviously the KD and big cut opened up in the first 2 rounds gave him a likely 3 point lead which he held onto on my card.

Had it 6-6 for GGG, then 7-5 for Derevy vs Charlo.

What were your cards?

[travestyny]

Bruuuuv.


Is this you?

If so, just save everyone the trouble. We know why you're mad.


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Block me from your thread all you want. We can all see who you are and who really is disgusting. Did you break out a second account to dissociate yourself from your disgusting posts?

[Boxing-1013]

Bruuuuv.


Is this you?

If so, just save everyone the trouble. We know why you're mad.

What a disgusting post and person you are.

In the context of that discussion, we were talking about whether organizations should be allowed to discriminate based on any factor they want to.

I said yes, as if it is really something that society doesn't want, society lets them know about it, and their business suffers.

You then said you were in favor of black only spaces. I said that's fine. You kept then asking if I was in favor of things like that, and kept asking leading questions. I have no idea what a white separatist even means to anyone, so I asked what your definition was.

Rest assured though, I have 0 interest in have any interaction with any cretin like yourself.

[BaguMka]

I am sure we all can agree that Derevjachenko would have won this fight if he was in Charlos place (nobody wanted Derevjachenko to win this fight)

[lolpz]

Man what were you (and many others) watching lol. As I said, watch the fight without sound. Watch those 5 rounds I mentioned and lmk how you think Charlo had a chance to win any of them. He did hardly anything in any of those rounds. And Derevy did quite a bit in them.

I don’t see how Derevychenko could look the way he did after that fight and Jermall look the way he did, then you sit there and tell me Jermall did nothing and Detevychenko did everything. That kind of damage Derevychenko received was from a sustained assault to his face from round 1 to round 12.

Again, go look at the GGG-Derevychenko fight. You can say Derevychenko brusies easily but look at GGG’s face. Charlo looked like he was cruising and came out untouched almost, the same way it looked when he was fighting. Sergei landed body shots but not nearly as effective as Charlo’s headshots, that’s the difference in punch count. Canelo on the other hand, was clearly more effective with his body punching against GGG in their fight mixed with headshots and it showed all the way. Look at the way Derevychenko was tumbling across the ring on multiple occasions too. Yes on a round by round basis, Charlo was more effective then Derevychenko was. I don’t feel the need to list boxing judging criteria again.

[Boxing-1013]

I don’t see how Derevychenko could look the way he did after that fight and Jermall look the way he did, then you sit there and tell me Jermall did nothing and Detevychenko did everything. That kind of damage Derevychenko received was from a sustained assault to his face from round 1 to round 12.

Again, go look at the GGG-Derevychenko fight. You can say Derevychenko brusies easily but look at GGG’s face. Charlo looked like he was cruising and came out untouched almost, the same way it looked when he was fighting. Sergei landed body shots but not nearly as effective as Charlo’s headshots, that’s the difference in punch count. Canelo on the other hand, was clearly more effective with his body punching against GGG in their fight mixed with headshots and it showed all the way. Look at the way Derevychenko was tumbling across the ring on multiple occasions too. Yes on a round by round basis, Charlo was more effective then Derevychenko was. I don’t feel the need to list boxing judging criteria again.

Boxing judging criteria is simple - who did more damage in the round.

Charlo won a few rounds based on doing more damage. So did Derevy. You also don't score fights on how someone's face looks, but you know that. It does help to decide some rounds though, if you notice for example that someone opened a big mark etc on another guy, then you will probably lean his way when giving that round. I did that for Charlo in the 7 round last night I believe, when otherwise Derevy was outworking him.

I saw Derevy bobblng Charlo's head quite a bit with some headshots in the final few rounds btw, so it wasn't all one sided up top.

[just the facts]

Boxing judging criteria is simple - who did more damage in the round.

Charlo won a few rounds based on doing more damage. So did Derevy. You also don't score fights on how someone's face looks, but you know that. It does help to decide some rounds though, if you notice for example that someone opened a big mark etc on another guy, then you will probably lean his way when giving that round. I did that for Charlo in the 7 round last night I believe, when otherwise Derevy was outworking him.

I saw Derevy bobblng Charlo's head quite a bit with some headshots in the final few rounds btw, so it wasn't all one sided up top.

You see what you want to see. Serious anti Charlo agenda.

[Boxing-1013]

You see what you want to see. Serious anti Charlo agenda.

Actually I was expecting to see a dominant Charlo performance. But I didn't. So I instead let me eyes tell me what happened and I didn't just parrot some narrative that others were saying. You wouldn't know how to score a fight properly, if it was between your guy and a guy you don't like, if your life depended on it lol.

[Boxing-1013]

My card:

1 - Sergei - landed maybe 5-6 scoring shots to Charlo's maybe 2.
2 - Charlo - close round but 1-1 feels right. Can't have one guy up 2-0
3 - Charlo - clear, was winning it even before the punch that wobbled it Derevy
4 - Sergei - very close, thought he probably nicked it at the end. Certainly the last 30 seconds helped him.

Could see 3-1 Charlo at this point. But 2-2 feels like the right score. Not much separating them at all at this point.

5 - Sergei - 3-2 either way at this point. No real way to have this 4-1 either way.
6 - Sergei - clear. 3-3 Feels like the right score at this time but could see 4-2 to Sergei. Great round btw. Some great inside fighting that Sergei just did some better work in. Charlo showed some good fighting too and some good toughness. Sergei ripped some body shots that would have hurt many guys.

7 - Charlo - I honestly feel like it was Sergei's round again but Charlo ended it well, and you see Derevy's eye swell at the end of the round. 5-2 seems a bit harsh against Charlo but I am not seeing the dominant performance others are seeing. He is getting the fight taken to him by Derevy.

8 - Charlo - great round!! Was honestly Sergei's all the way, until that last exchange, where Charlo hurt him and you have to give him the round. I am not seeing the great jab that others have mentioned though, and Derevy is doing very well in there imo and is doing the better. Honest to God Jack Culcay is doing better vs Sergei than Charlo GGG or Jacobs lol.

Side note - Sergei's face is working against him. Charlo's working for him. Charlo not marked up at all and Sergei showing serious wear around that eye. Makes it seem like he is losing the fight though I feel he is pretty clearly doing the better work routinely, certainly in these middle rounds.

9 - Charlo - clear, great round from him. His best, most consistent round so far. I think Charlo looks emboldened by the cut on Sergei's eye, and Sergei seems conscious of it. As a result Charlo relaxed and picked his spots well, and Sergei looked cautious.

5-4 Charlo just feels like the right score. Anything different just seems off.

10 - Sergei - clear - 5-5

11 - Sergei - pretty clear 6 -5. I am not really understanding the fawning over Charlo's performance at this point. Both guys tiring a bit, especially Charlo.

12 - Sergei - clear - 7-5 Sergei. Could see 6-6. No idea what some of y'all were looking at lol. Wow.

You see what you want to see. Serious anti Charlo agenda.

There's my card and analysis. Doesn't seem like any hate there.