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  • Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View Post
    Lol not at all. Sounds like you're projecting. Either way I saw what I needed to see last night - that Charlo can compete with anyone at 160. That's all I really wanted to know.

    But people need to learn how to score fights...what's the point in 2 guys lacing them up if people have their cards filled out beforehand.

    Some just have no idea what they are scoring/some are easily influenced by announcers/and some have their cards filled out beforehand. Some are a mix or have all 3.
    Delusional you are. If there were fans in the arena it would’ve been wider cards for Jermall. There was nothing to be influenced by. It was quiet the whole night and all could focus intently. Seems like you’re giving credit for SD just getting a few moments of many of the rounds instead of judging the entire round. The sharp shooting, head snapping, and cleaner shots were by Charlo. SD had moments but even the commentators were hyping up SD. You would’ve thought Mall was getting outclassed the way they were talking.

    I realized tonight that the Charlos have officially made it to the top. Why? The same thing that happens to all the top fighters is now happening to them. Hate and conspiracy theories arise trying to delegitimize their hard fought wins. Everything from Rosario taking a dive to SD winning 7 to 5 is crazy talk and very telling of their future. You can only be great if you constantly step on haters and back it up. And they did just that last night. Point. Blank. Period. Anything other than credit given to these guys, is delusion.
    Last edited by Punch on Tap; 09-27-2020, 02:40 PM.

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    • Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View Post
      Watch the 1st, 6th 10th 11th and 12th without sound and call it for the better man. People saying Charlo dominated is one of the most bizarre storylines I can recall on here tbh.
      Dude your hate is blinding you. Let me guess you also think Rosario “took a dive” right?

      Jermall clearly controlled the fight. Was it competitive? Of course! That’s what we want in the best fights with top opposition. But to say that Jermall didn’t win this fight is pure hatred. He dictated the pace, landed the cleaner/head snapping punches, and landed torpedo jabs all night. He even turned and slipped punches as if he was the smaller man. SD had good moments but even those were muffled shots and Jermall was able to move with the direction of the shots to take the steam off.

      Then the commentators painting a picture mid fight like SD was winning rounds when in reality he was just doing a little better. You don’t win a round by doing better than you did the rounds before. That’s what emotional fans like to do. Stop it.
      Last edited by Punch on Tap; 09-27-2020, 02:50 PM.

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      • Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View Post
        Why do you prop up bad, pre-filled out cards as an example of success? lol. Anyone saying Charlo dominated that fight has NO CLUE what they are watching. People need to watch fights objectively and without sound. Really helps to score them.

        What was your card btw? I've posted mine on here, with analysis.
        Same ignorant bu!!shyte every sore loser posts.


        Hint: serious ggg agenda going on here

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        • Originally posted by CauliflowerEars View Post
          I'll tell ya another thing I have to guard against being an influence, and that's a fighter's face.
          I read somewhere that Dervy's skin and scars will never do him any favors in the ring. He's generally going to look like the beat fighter no matter what...
          Yeah and I mean I do factor that in a bit, as far as analyzing damage and scoring that. I actually mentioned that in my scorecard, that I gave Charlo a round that it looked like Derevy was winning because you noticed Derevy was busted up starting in that round.

          All we can do is call it like we see it my friend. I actually like both the Charlos as fighters. I guess that's why I'm not really fawning over those performances last night. They both did more or less what I expected. Jermell showing he was a level or two above Rosario, and Jermall showing he can compete with anyone around 160.

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          • Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
            See, this kinda crap is why I don't post here much anymore.

            Fanboys, not real boxing fans.

            Anyone who had Derevyanchanko winning or had a draw either doesn't know how to score a fight or has an agenda that has little or nothing to do with the fight.
            What was your score in GGG vs Canelo I?

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            • Originally posted by just the facts View Post
              Same ignorant bu!!shyte every sore loser posts.


              Hint: serious ggg agenda going on here
              Dude lol. I don't have a favorite really at all when a fight starts. Certainly not last night. Charlo is American, as am I. Derevy looks more like me. But all of that stuff is irrelevant. I don't give extra points for woman-sh.it. I watch the fights without bias and score the action.

              I had Fury tying Wilder in the first fight. I thought Charlo beat Korobov 7-5 or it was maybe a draw. Floyd beat JLC 7-5 or maybe it was 6-6. He beat Pac 8-4. Derevy got at least 5 rounds vs GGG and I gave him 6 live and have no issue if an honest person gave him 7.

              I have no biases. I'm not a h.o. I don't have my self-worth tied up in any fighter doing well or not doing well. I know I'm the sh.it in real life so I don't need to live vicariously through other dudes and prop them up (or down) for my emotional well-being. Not sure most on here can say the same Hint: look in a mirror

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              • Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
                What was your score in GGG vs Canelo I?
                Lol get him

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                • Originally posted by Punch on Tap View Post
                  Delusional you are. If there were fans in the arena it would’ve been wider cards for Jermall. There was nothing to be influenced by. It was quiet the whole night and all could focus intently. Seems like you’re giving credit for SD just getting a few moments of many of the rounds instead of judging the entire round. The sharp shooting, head snapping, and cleaner shots were by Charlo. SD had moments but even the commentators were hyping up SD. You would’ve thought Mall was getting outclassed the way they were talking.

                  I realized tonight that the Charlos have officially made it to the top. Why? The same thing that happens to all the top fighters is now happening to them. Hate and conspiracy theories arise trying to delegitimize their hard fought wins. Everything from Rosario taking a dive to SD winning 7 to 5 is crazy talk and very telling of their future. You can only be great if you constantly step on haters and back it up. And they did just that last night. Point. Blank. Period. Anything other than credit given to these guys, is delusion.
                  Dude, jaw dropping comment lol.

                  I have no hate for any man, certainly not for any boxer. I have full respect for anyone who steps into a ring. It is for that reason that I score fights without bias and without regard for who is who. I score the shots and let that fill out my card.

                  On the bold, that is insane dude lol. Watch the fight, without sound, and let me know how you score it. Watch the 1st, 6th, 10th, 11th and 12th and honestly try and tell me that those aren't clear SD rounds.

                  Idgaf who wins when two men step into the ring; let the best man win. But the narrative that Charlo dominated is absurd. I watched the fight after it ended, and after reading what everyone was saying about the fight.

                  As I watched it, I was shocked to see so many say Charlo had a great jab or dominated this fight. It just didn't happen. He competed well and it was a close fight.

                  You can check my card and analysis for that fight if you really want to, it's on here. And you can check any card of mine for any big fight in the past few years and it will show that I have no biases. I call it like I see it and score it for the better man. That also means I don't give extra points to guys, just because.

                  No one is hating on your sweet little boys, certainly not me. Jermell is a dangerous explosive fighter. He also struggles to win rounds boxing wise and the next guy he meets who can box a little and take a punch will very likely beat him. That's not hate. If you really feel otherwise it's just delusion. Last night was a good win for him but Rosario also had a SD with Cota and got KOed by Gallimore. Let's slow down a bit before heralding that win TOO much.

                  Jermall is who I thought he was. A very dangerous elite athlete who can also box a bit. He will be a challenge for anyone around 160. But saying he won 7 or 8 rounds last night...or that he clearly won...I mean I have no idea what y'all were watching.

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                  • Originally posted by Punch on Tap View Post
                    Dude your hate is blinding you. Let me guess you also think Rosario “took a dive” right?

                    Jermall clearly controlled the fight. Was it competitive? Of course! That’s what we want in the best fights with top opposition. But to say that Jermall didn’t win this fight is pure hatred. He dictated the pace, landed the cleaner/head snapping punches, and landed torpedo jabs all night. He even turned and slipped punches as if he was the smaller man. SD had good moments but even those were muffled shots and Jermall was able to move with the direction of the shots to take the steam off.

                    Then the commentators painting a picture mid fight like SD was winning rounds when in reality he was just doing a little better. You don’t win a round by doing better than you did the rounds before. That’s what emotional fans like to do. Stop it.
                    So why don't you list some of your recent cards in similar fights to prove how objective you are?

                    For example - how did you score the two GGG-Canelo fights? The two Ward-Kovalev fights? Canelo-Jacobs? Jacobs-GGG? GGG-Derevy? Lara-Canelo? Fury-Wilder?

                    I ask because I'm sure I would notice a bit of a trend with your socres, but you wouldn't really notice a trend with mine. Other than that I don't give bonus points for a guy just because I may think he is a more pleasant person.

                    Watch those 5 rounds I mentioned without sound, and get back to me. Also, why don't you post your card as well for the fight last night so we can see your brilliant analysis.

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                    • Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View Post
                      So why don't you list some of your recent cards in similar fights to prove how objective you are?

                      For example - how did you score the two GGG-Canelo fights? The two Ward-Kovalev fights? Canelo-Jacobs? Jacobs-GGG? GGG-Derevy? Lara-Canelo? Fury-Wilder?

                      I ask because I'm sure I would notice a bit of a trend with your socres, but you wouldn't really notice a trend with mine. Other than that I don't give bonus points for a guy just because I may think he is a more pleasant person.

                      Watch those 5 rounds I mentioned without sound, and get back to me. Also, why don't you post your card as well for the fight last night so we can see your brilliant analysis.
                      I get it now, not just an anti Charlo agenda but the real angle is a pro ggg agenda. I wondered what was the basis of your bu!!!shyte was.

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