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  • Bronx2245
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    #11
    Originally posted by Robi13
    I would love Ortiz vs Ennis
    Will only happen as a unification fight, or if DAZN folds! In the meantime I would like to see Ortiz vs. Ellis, or Ortiz vs. Hooker!
    Last edited by Bronx2245; 09-26-2020, 10:31 AM.

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    • alexjust
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      #12
      Prime Frazier vs prime Wlad (the Emmanuel Steward version of Wlad) is not as clear cut as Bread thinks, IMO. Wlad had skills, reach, size and power. That's not an easy combination to beat, but I will agree that Frazier has a good chance to stop Wlad. Vitali - much less likely and I'd bet on Vitali beating Frazier.

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      • Doctor Bill
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        #13
        Frazier - Klitschkos

        Frazier was great, but he would have to be a little bigger to compete with the best heavies of the 2000's. Otherwise I don't think he would get past the Klitshckos or Lennox Lewis, who I rate just a shade above them. The reach, the size, and the power of the later fighters would likely result in an ending similar to the ones Foreman handed out to him.

        Now of course if Frazier had been born at the same time as the K brothers and Lewis, there is a good chance that he would be bigger than he was back in his day. That would change everything.

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        • ShoulderRoll
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          #14
          Have to disagree with Bread about Lomachenko.

          Devin Haney wanted that work and even became his mandatory. But Lomachenko's team chose to ask for Franchise Champion designation and dropped the belt instead of fulfilling that mandatory.

          Let's keep it real and honest.

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          • Thuglife Nelo
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            #15
            Originally posted by Eastlos
            WTF? Vergil w/t Golden Boy Promotions @ DAZN.
            Capt. Walrus is a PBC shill.

            The better news is Ennis over rated. Makes a lot of mistakes...

            I’d say Ortiz vs Ellis is the better fight and in house. I say Vergil Ortiz beats both Ellis and Ennis.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Eastlos
              WTF? Vergil w/t Golden Boy Promotions @ DAZN.
              My bad bro! Thought he was in PBC stable.

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              • CaptainWalrus
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                #17
                Originally posted by Al Broker
                Capt. Walrus is a PBC shill.

                The better news is Ennis over rated. Makes a lot of mistakes...

                I’d say Ortiz vs Ellis is the better fight and in house. I say Vergil Ortiz beats both Ellis and Ennis.
                Whooops! Thought Ortiz in PBC stable. Sorry Broke Al!

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                • Bob Haymon
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                  #18
                  So after the cable companies get their cut the Charlo PPV could only end up making around $6 million which is what they're spending on Crawford-Brook purses and that's just for the main event alone and they still managed to keep the fight on regular ESPN. Tell me again why anybody would be dumb enough to pay $75 for the Charlos?

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                  • CaptainWalrus
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Robi13
                    I would love Ortiz vs Ennis
                    I thought they were both at PBC but found out Ortiz with Goldenboy.

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                    • Thuglife Nelo
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                      #20
                      ”My reason for putting Loma and Crawford slightly over Canelo is most importantly I think they would beat him if they were all the same size. Not by a lot but I think they would. My other reason is Canelo while great, has had a handful of struggles vs a fighters that I think Loma and Crawford would handle without controversy.”

                      Notice how Breadman didn’t specify which fights Canelo struggled. Liam Smith P4P and style would smash any size of Indongo.

                      What Breadman failed with, exposed himself with, is any fighter Loma or Crawford fought, Canelo would smash those styles. Breadman didn’t think about that and as usual just making stuff up with the old playbook of P4P and “same size.”

                      Lol. Bread said “not by a lot.” What does that even mean
                      Last edited by Thuglife Nelo; 09-26-2020, 03:33 PM.

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