Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Charlo Twins, Ennis, Lubin, Pacquiao, More

[whollisboxing]

Prime Frazier vs prime Wlad (the Emmanuel Steward version of Wlad) is not as clear cut as Bread thinks, IMO. Wlad had skills, reach, size and power. That's not an easy combination to beat, but I will agree that Frazier has a good chance to stop Wlad. Vitali - much less likely and I'd bet on Vitali beating Frazier.

I think a lot depends on how the fight is officiated too. As in how often does the ref break up clinches and/or allow Smokin' Joe to work on the inside. The number of rounds make a difference too because if it's 15 then I think Frazier would absorb punishment and stop Wlad late.

[Bigchip]

Ennis won’t get a shot because he and his team did Chris Middendorf dirty and now they are in a balky until 2025. A battle they won’t win. So they better place nice and maybe it will work out for them.

Ask Terence Crawford.

[Robi13]

I thought they were both at PBC but found out Ortiz with Goldenboy.

Wack how much that matters

[alexjust]

I think a lot depends on how the fight is officiated too. As in how often does the ref break up clinches and/or allow Smokin' Joe to work on the inside. The number of rounds make a difference too because if it's 15 then I think Frazier would absorb punishment and stop Wlad late.

I doubt Frazier has ever been hit by someone like Wladimir. So surviving almost 15 rounds of this is not a guarantee, but if he does then yeah he might have a good chance. Against Vitali though..nah, don't see it. Especially if Vitali for once doesn't sustain an injury from early rounds.

[LoadedWraps]

Have to disagree with Bread about Lomachenko.

Devin Haney wanted that work and even became his mandatory. But Lomachenko's team chose to ask for Franchise Champion designation and dropped the belt instead of fulfilling that mandatory.

Let's keep it real and honest.

I don't see that as Lomachenko or his team actually thinking that was some huge risk.

Not everything done in boxing is to directly make, or avoid a specific fight.

[ShoulderRoll]

I don't see that as Lomachenko or his team actually thinking that was some huge risk.

Not everything done in boxing is to directly make, or avoid a specific fight.

Haney is among the best opponents available at 135 lbs and he signed with a rival promoter.

We all know what time it is, Loaded Wraps.

[whollisboxing]

I doubt Frazier has ever been hit by someone like Wladimir. So surviving almost 15 rounds of this is not a guarantee, but if he does then yeah he might have a good chance. Against Vitali though..nah, don't see it. Especially if Vitali for once doesn't sustain an injury from early rounds.

Wlad would be dangerous early on but he wouldn’t pose the same threat for the whole fight.
I could see Frazier pushing a frenetic pace which would force Wlad to clinch. Could Wlad line Frazier up for a big 1-2? Certainly, however I think Frazier would be in his chest all night, which is why I think a lot depends on how the fight is officiated.