How does Floyd Mayweather do against prime Oscar and Mosley?

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  • satiev1
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    #31
    Lol at thinking that was prime mayweather. Prime mayweather was the guy who fought gatti and coralles

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    • HewJohnson
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      #32
      Prime Oscar beats him
      Prime Mosley, maybe
      Prime Manny beats him

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      • BoxingTrav
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        #33
        Floyd loses all the fantasy fights. He wins in reality however

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          #34
          Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
          After seeing Floyd vs a pretty faded Oscar I don't have any reason to think he beats a Prime Oscar.

          As for Mosley, it's a tougher call, even in his Prime Mosley was definatley susceptible to being out boxed, he'd have a punchers chance for sure but I lean towards Floyd.
          Hello Earl. Long time no see...You're right of course, it makes no logical sense. But Mayweather lovers, have no logic really.

          They have injected themselves with Mayweather invincibility (paying no attention to his protective refs, judges, Commissions, etc, not to mention his making his own rules, including medical ones-"speak no evil, see no evil, hear no evil etc-like his own injections, "re-hydrations" and failing tests, that were never publicized-Thomas Hauser did a big spread, 2-3 parts, on this).

          A prime Oscar would never lose to a Mayweather. Oscar was very fast, great defence, and a hefty walloper, top chin, excellent left, turning into a hook. Good-not great- boxing brain too. Besides, he wouldn't have taken the fight unless his team were certain he'd win. He had the slightly earlier version of Mayweather's Brain's Trust, according to reporters.. They could have fought years earlier. Why not.

          As for Mosley, He was a career lightweight. Between June 2000 and June 2003 he fought every top contender, won 10 defences in a row..Mowed them down....ALL KOs. He was unbeatable then. He went straight up to welter, and 6 months later fought and beat Oscar. That was really a great fight, for both guys, but a clear 116-112 or 117-11 for Mosley. Oscar had his own "pull" with the officials...Mosley kept getting off first, following with great, fast, combinations. Did anyone ever notice that Oscar's "protector", sometimes migrated nearly up to his chest. Reporters wrote about it a lot. He didn't like body punches too much.

          The Oscar-Mosley fight was a result of Mosley constantly calling for it and Oscar avoiding it. They lived within "spitting distance" of one another, and Oscar kept ignoring his lifelong rival, a great lightweight willing to go straight to welter to fight him. Public Opinion did it.

          Mosley was like a buzz saw waiting to be set to work. Lightning fast, twitchy, too explosive, too powerful for Mayweather. He'd hit the "unbeatable" a few times in the first couple of rounds and thereafter Mayweather would do a lot of back-pedalling, circling, and elbow-to-the-throat tactics. Not the way to a points win, and he hadn't the power for more.

          Besides he wouldn't have fought him anyway. Too risky. My opinion only.

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          • LoadedWraps
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            #35
            I've held the opinion Oscar in his prime beats Floyd for a long time. Was a very close fight when it happened.

            Any version of Mosley loses to Floyd imo.

            Mosley and ODLH present very different challenges. ODLH was technically near perfect, a beautiful boxer with speed, and great defense. High ring IQ but his biggest enemy was himself and his out of the ring issues. Mosley was awkward, explosive, fast, and had high ring IQ but he could be hit, more than ODLH, and he wasn't as calm or patient in the ring and wouldn't handle the need to adjust to Floyd as well as ODLH did. As we saw when the fight did happen, Floyd adjusted and figured Mosley out and eventually took over.

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            • Roadblock
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              #36
              Originally posted by LoadedWraps
              I've held the opinion Oscar in his prime beats Floyd for a long time. Was a very close fight when it happened.

              Any version of Mosley loses to Floyd imo.

              Mosley and ODLH present very different challenges. ODLH was technically near perfect, a beautiful boxer with speed, and great defense. High ring IQ but his biggest enemy was himself and his out of the ring issues. Mosley was awkward, explosive, fast, and had high ring IQ but he could be hit, more than ODLH, and he wasn't as calm or patient in the ring and wouldn't handle the need to adjust to Floyd as well as ODLH did. As we saw when the fight did happen, Floyd adjusted and figured Mosley out and eventually took over.
              Not a single mention that Oscar was 17lbs bigger than Floyd and 22lbs bigger that the Oscar Manny fought, and then you want convert that into a fight where both are prime with no massive weight advantage to Oscar.

              It amazes me how so many non boxer fans NEVER think of weight.

              For these guys to have fought in primes you need it at 135.

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              • Zaryu
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                #37
                Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                ODLH has lost his speed, reflexes and snap on his punches by then
                He had lost some speed, quickness and pop, but he was still good enough to be champion.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                  He gets worked over. Hence the reason he avoided Mosley at 135 and stalled the fight for as long as he could. He also ducked a rematch with a past-prime Oscar who should have won that fight.
                  how did he avoid Mosley at 135?

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                  • Boxing Goat
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Zaryu
                    He had lost some speed, quickness and pop, but he was still good enough to be champion.
                    I agree but he wasn't his best, prime self by a long shot. In his prime he was like a bigger, better Eric Morales. He was a beast.
                    People have just forgotten.

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                    • Zaryu
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                      I agree but he wasn't his best, prime self by a long shot. In his prime he was like a bigger, better Eric Morales. He was a beast.
                      People have just forgotten.
                      I agree he wasn't in his prime, which is why I said it would be a 50/50 fight if they were both in their primes.

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