Will Loma even get credit for beating Teofimo?

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  • dan_cov
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    #41
    Originally posted by boliodogs
    Loma can't wipe his own ass????? What the fuc are you talking about? Loma is the greatest amateur boxing in history and has done things as a pro in less fights than anyone in history and set records that may never be broken. if that is a boxer who can't even wipe his own ass you have very high standards I must say. Every important pound for pound top 10 best list has Loma number one. Are they all kissing his ass too or do they just know a damn good fighter when they see one fight.

    My point is he doesn't need praising for every single thing he does. Everything he does his fans go OTT and demand everyone worships him like they do, then cry he's being treated unfairly when you don't.

    Lopez is big and can punch, that is all and it doesn't make it a 50/50 because its not. This kid is not on Loma's level and never will be.

    You even have people talking Teo up now as an amateur - He went to the olympics to represent Hondoras who had nobody else and he didn't even score a single point let alone win anything & that was less than just 4 yrs back

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      #42
      Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
      ^^He'll get a huge credit from me if he comes close to beating Davis. Stop crying. In the meantime, I'll just wait till he steps up his competition. Davis is fighting someone more accomplished than Lopez next.
      Bro you have to be getting paid to post on here for Gervonta. Like there is no other way around it

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        #43
        Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
        ^^He'll get a huge credit from me if he comes close to beating Davis. Stop crying. In the meantime, I'll just wait till he steps up his competition. Davis is fighting someone more accomplished than Lopez next.
        Dude Sta Cruz ain’t shIt especially @ 135. This is not to discredit Tank but the guy he’s fighting next is a major ducker in the lower weight classes. He blatantly ducked the man who was the real man of the division he was reigning. That same man was schooled by guess who? Lomachenko himself.

        At 135, Lopez > Sta Cruz

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          #44
          Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
          Belts are a dime a dozen and worthless.

          Before I puke because I need to talk about belts, I will mention that Haney holds the belt that really matters at lightweight (that's what most think, I think they are all equally garbage), is Haney a champion in your opinion?

          I didn't call Commey a bum after the fight, I did it way before. Ask Blaster1. He and I had a bet.
          I never said you waited til after Lopez beat Commey to call him a bum. I don't see all your posts but I am sure you called him a bum before the fight.Belts don't mean as much as they did in the days of one champion per weight class but I believe they still mean plenty or boxers would not want them and they damn sure do want them and fight hard to get them. I am talking about full world titles not those junior champions and I think those junior world champions are BS. But a full world champion is the same as being a top 4 contender in the days of only one champion. Haney is a jr champion so I don't think of him as a real world champion and did not even know he was a champion of any kind. Commey was a full champion not a junior champion. Maybe belts make you puke but the most important think about the Loma vs Lopez fight is all the full championship belt are on the line and barring a draw the winner will be the only lightweight champion in the world and the true undisputed champion.Only Crawford and Usyk have done that in many years. Now maybe will will also have only one champ at 135 and 140. The winners will probably move to a different weight class and it will be back to 4 champions again but that is just how it goes.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Boxing-1013
            Bro you have to be getting paid to post on here for Gervonta. Like there is no other way around it
            Isn't Cruz more accomplished than Lopez? Where am I wrong?

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              #46
              Originally posted by Ca$ual Fan
              Dude Sta Cruz ain’t shIt especially @ 135. This is not to discredit Tank but the guy he’s fighting next is a major ducker in the lower weight classes. He blatantly ducked the man who was the real man of the division he was reigning. That same man was schooled by guess who? Lomachenko himself.

              At 135, Lopez > Sta Cruz
              The Cruz fight is at 130. Make a case where Lopez is more accomplished overall than Santa Cruz.

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                #47
                Originally posted by dan_cov
                My point is he doesn't need praising for every single thing he does. Everything he does his fans go OTT and demand everyone worships him like they do, then cry he's being treated unfairly when you don't.

                Lopez is big and can punch, that is all and it doesn't make it a 50/50 because its not. This kid is not on Loma's level and never will be.

                You even have people talking Teo up now as an amateur - He went to the olympics to represent Hondoras who had nobody else and he didn't even score a single point let alone win anything & that was less than just 4 yrs back
                Loma is a solid 3 to 1 favorite based on the past achievements of the two boxers. I have noticed a bad habit many posters have of calling any fight where one guy is not a 10 to 1 favorite a 50/50 fight. Loma is a solid 3 to 1 favorite the last time I checked the official odds.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by boliodogs
                  I never said you waited til after Lopez beat Commey to call him a bum. I don't see all your posts but I am sure you called him a bum before the fight.Belts don't mean as much as they did in the days of one champion per weight class but I believe they still mean plenty or boxers would not want them and they damn sure do want them and fight hard to get them. I am talking about full world titles not those junior champions and I think those junior world champions are BS. But a full world champion is the same as being a top 4 contender in the days of only one champion. Haney is a jr champion so I don't think of him as a real world champion and did not even know he was a champion of any kind. Commey was a full champion not a junior champion. Maybe belts make you puke but the most important think about the Loma vs Lopez fight is all the full championship belt are on the line and barring a draw the winner will be the only lightweight champion in the world and the true undisputed champion.Only Crawford and Usyk have done that in many years. Now maybe will will also have only one champ at 135 and 140. The winners will probably move to a different weight class and it will be back to 4 champions again but that is just how it goes.
                  Bro, I know you are a huge GGG fan, but all his so-called 20 defenses are based on a junior belt (WBA regular).

                  The real WBC belt is held by Haney, Haney is their champion. Loma doesn't hold a WBC championship belt, he holds a meaningless honorary belt like Canelo does at middle.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                    Isn't Cruz more accomplished than Lopez? Where am I wrong?
                    At lightweight? No, no argument can be made that he is a tougher fight at 135 than Teo, or that he is more accomplished at 135.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                      The Cruz fight is at 130. Make a case where Lopez is more accomplished overall than Santa Cruz.
                      Well I didn’t know they’re gonna fight @130. Either way, Sta Cruz haven’t any jack at 130 too. Didn’t he just got awarded a vacant ‘super‘ belt that he didn’t deserve? Lopez is more accomplished @ 135 than Sta Cruz is @ 130.

                      I would even go further that Rigo > Sta Cruz even at 130. Had they fought, I would have bet on Rigo at any weight class

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