Luis Ortiz

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Basically like to see him fight anyone apart from the very top guys because he can’t beat them.

It would be good to see how he performs against the next tier.

What top fighters has Ortiz fought ?

Your very post is the exact opposite what he’s been doing and that’s fighting next tier guys . Everyone wants to see him fight top guys so we know where he’s currently at . We don’t know if he can beat the top guys in 2020 ,don’t we want to find out ? Ha

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What top fighters has Ortiz fought ?

Your very post is the exact opposite what he’s been doing and that’s fighting next tier guys . Everyone wants to see him fight top guys so we know where he’s currently at . We don’t know if he can beat the top guys in 2020 ,don’t we want to find out ? Ha

Well he can’t beat Wilder and he’s not going to beat Fury, he isn’t good enough. I’m talking about the very top 2 or 3 in the division

I’d like to see him fight guys like Povetkin, Whyte, Ruiz, Usyk, Parker etc. even Chisora would be an improvement.

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Well he can’t beat Wilder and he’s not going to beat Fury, he isn’t good enough. I’m talking about the very top 2 or 3 in the division

I’d like to see him fight guys like Povetkin, Whyte, Ruiz, Usyk, Parker etc. even Chisora would be an improvement.

Those are top fighters though,you said you didn’t want to see him in there with the top fighters . Losing to Wilder doesn’t prove he can’t beat other top guys and we’re talking about a guy who struggles to win rounds legitimately with sole boxing skills .

Stating Ortiz needs to fight guys at lower tier is not reality because that’s what he’s done his whole career . We have never seen Ortiz actually fight a guy like the ones you mentioned . Maybe I’m just misunderstanding here ? Wallin vs Ortiz is the one I want .

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Those are top fighters though,you said you didn’t want to see him in there with the top fighters . Losing to Wilder doesn’t prove he can’t beat other top guys and we’re talking about a guy who struggles to win rounds legitimately with sole boxing skills .
Stating Ortiz needs to fight guys at lower tier is not reality because that’s what he’s done his whole career . We have never seen Ortiz actually fight a guy like the ones you mentioned . Maybe I’m just misunderstanding here ? Wallin vs Ortiz is the one I want .

I didn’t even think about that matchup. That’d be a interesting one!

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He's never shown he deserves to be in top 5 company.

It's all eye test and amateur career stuff with Ortiz. Needs to go in with a legitimate top 10 guy.

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I didn’t even think about that matchup. That’d be a interesting one!

Top 3 southpaws , I have Wallin at 2 and Ortiz at 3 though that can be questioned ,he hasn’t fought anyone outside Wilder ,but Wallin is still green so it’s a good fight .

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Those are top fighters though,you said you didn’t want to see him in there with the top fighters . Losing to Wilder doesn’t prove he can’t beat other top guys and we’re talking about a guy who struggles to win rounds legitimately with sole boxing skills .

Stating Ortiz needs to fight guys at lower tier is not reality because that’s what he’s done his whole career . We have never seen Ortiz actually fight a guy like the ones you mentioned . Maybe I’m just misunderstanding here ? Wallin vs Ortiz is the one I want .

Ok well I meant the guys everyone considers right at the top of the division I.e Fury, AJ and Wilder. I’d have no real interest in seeing Ortiz fight them.

I consider Povetkin, Whyte , Parker etc. As the second tier of HW’s below guys like AJ and Fury. I’d like to see Ortiz fight those guys.

Not that those guys aren’t “top” fighters per se, i just meant the general consensus top 2 or 3.

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Wallin, Helenius, Breazeale, Martin, Ruiz, anybody, just make it.

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Fight Charr and take that WBA Belt he is holding hostage!

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Fight Charr and take that WBA Belt he is holding hostage!

If that happened he would be the boogeyman for another 5 years on here .