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  • Corelone
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    #21
    Originally posted by hugh grant
    I get fed up when people say it's a question of physics! How many times does little guy have to beat big guys before people acknowledge skills pay bills?
    Only cowards say size matters! Or only big guys say it to patronise little guys. Like mjw to Bruce Lee. You beat the small guy first then I'll agree with your your size mattered but your all mouth until then!
    But I'm concerned for rjj not because he's small I've seen effect one punch has on him.
    But I'll put money where my mouth is rjjj to win
    Why do they have divisions if size has nothing to do with it? If size didn't matter, we'd have the gap tooth division, and bowed leg division, anything but size.

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    • Robbie Barrett
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      #22
      The only advantage Jones has is conditioning. People thinking he is more skilled don't know what they are talking about. Jones relied on reflexes he isn't as skilled as Tyson. If they actually go at it for real (still sceptical) Tyson is going to destroy the guy.

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      • PRINCEKOOL
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        #23
        Originally posted by Boricua181
        I agree with your post 100%, that was my point that Tyson took a better punch, from bigger, and stronger opponents, and never got knocked out cold like Jones did. Those 4 years in which he was locked up, really hurt his career there is no telling just how impressive his career could've been.
        There was a in studio interview with Mike Tyson & Buster Douglas 'Where Douglas stated? He never saw that look within Tyson's eye's at any point, where he was defeated' Tyson I think was quite durable both physically and mentally.

        Evander Holyfeild.
        Mike Tyson.
        David Tua.
        Oliver McCall.
        George Foreman.

        Lennox Lewis 'Tougher and more durable than people give him credit for etc'.

        These where pretty much the most durable fighters of the 90's 'The fighters highlighted where overall the most durable etc'.

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          #24
          Originally posted by archiemoore1
          One thing about Roger Mayweather. He ain't never lie when he said most ppl don't know **** about boxing. Mike has been smoking the strongest weed in the world everyday on his Ranch for the last 10 years. He starts training, gets a beach physique, and all of a sudden, he's Iron Mike from 1986? GTFOH. His lungs ain't as pretty as his body, and while I'm sure he picked Roy over Evander because he thinks he'll walk through him because he's smaller, Mike is the one who made a mistake. Roy said he made a mistake because he wants Mike's ego to swell. In reality, he's training to light Mike's ass up like one of those spliffs Mike loves so much. Roy doesn't smoke. Roy has fought as a heavyweight b4. He can handle any size, any weight, anybody if he trains the right way. Best believe he's training the right way because he knows what he has to do to Mike. He knows he gonna have to F... Mike up bad. He's a nice guy and I doubt he wants to hurt Mike, but he knows he has to. Roy is very intelligent. He's gonna be way better than ppl anticipate, and laser sharp. He'll be a lot closer to the Roy Jones of old than Mike will be to Iron Mike. Mike is gonna get a rude awakening
          I have never been one of the people stating? Roy Jones would be a easy fight 'All he knows is boxing, and he has never really stopped'.

          Roy Jones was never really a bad fighter, even in the latter part of his career 'His durability just decreased' he was still a amazing striker, and could produce some good combinations.

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            #25
            Originally posted by hugh grant
            I get fed up when people say it's a question of physics! How many times does little guy have to beat big guys before people acknowledge skills pay bills?
            Only cowards say size matters! Or only big guys say it to patronise little guys. Like mjw to Bruce Lee. You beat the small guy first then I'll agree with your your size mattered but your all mouth until then!
            But I'm concerned for rjj not because he's small I've seen effect one punch has on him.
            But I'll put money where my mouth is rjjj to win
            Size does matter lol.

            A good big man beats a good little man.

            Yeah you get occasional upsets

            But generally big men will beat little men unless there is a massive skill gap.

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            • lopetego
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              #26
              I expect Tyson to look like absolute crap, gas quickly and get outboxed by shot lil Roy

              people are seriously underestimating the effects of longtime inactivity

              Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
              There was a in studio interview with Mike Tyson & Buster Douglas 'Where Douglas stated? He never saw that look within Tyson's eye's at any point, where he was defeated' Tyson I think was quite durable both physically and mentally.

              Evander Holyfeild.
              Mike Tyson.
              David Tua.
              Oliver McCall.
              George Foreman.

              Lennox Lewis 'Tougher and more durable than people give him credit for etc'.

              These where pretty much the most durable fighters of the 90's 'The fighters highlighted where overall the most durable etc'.
              I stopped reading after you put Lennox "marshmallow chin" Lewis in your list of "most durable"

              None of the other guys you listed were ever victims of a brutal one punch KO

              nor they fought like scared wusses afraid to trade when they faced a huge puncher *points at Lewis vs Tua*

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              • PRINCEKOOL
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                #27
                Originally posted by lopetego
                I expect Tyson to look like absolute crap, gas quickly and get outboxed by shot lil Roy

                people are seriously underestimating the effects of longtime inactivity



                I stopped reading after you put Lennox "marshmallow chin" Lewis in your list of "most durable"

                None of the other guys you listed were ever victims of a brutal one punch KO

                nor they fought like scared wusses afraid to trade when they faced a huge puncher *points at Lewis vs Tua*
                Lennox Lewis only really knocked out once 'He got up off the canvas against Oliver McCall'.

                Lennox Lewis fought and beat most of the biggest punchers of the 90's 'He also proved his durability against Ray Mercer, Shannon Briggs and Vitali kiltschko'.

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                • hugh grant
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by LDBC Slayer
                  Size does matter lol.

                  A good big man beats a good little man.

                  Yeah you get occasional upsets

                  But generally big men will beat little men unless there is a massive skill gap.
                  What I'm getting at is the big guy has to beat the little guy first and only then can we discuss whether we think it was because of size.

                  If RJJ beats Tyson within a minute talking about size mattering will have been pointless and a mute point. Sure size can be advantageous but it can be overcome. Small guys have got advantages also
                  Last edited by hugh grant; 09-22-2020, 06:34 AM.

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                  • ironmike2012
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                    #29
                    A lot of buzz about this fight, most people have been very negative, both of these fighters are 2 of the greatest fighters to ever lace up the gloves, instead of complaining, we as boxing fans should be happy that we get this fight.

                    They could get hurt, I hope they have a good fight. Nobody worried about Mike fighting before, why start now?
                    Let's see what they have before we judge them, yes they both looked bad in recent years, but boxing is all they know and love.
                    Mike was on coke and his life was a mess, but he has cleaned his life up and wants another shot at glory, who are we to deny him.
                    If you don't watch, a lot of us still will.
                    Everyone will be salty, if Mike comes back and does good, would be the greatest come back in the history of boxing if he won a belt at 54.

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                    • Boricua181
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                      There was a in studio interview with Mike Tyson & Buster Douglas 'Where Douglas stated? He never saw that look within Tyson's eye's at any point, where he was defeated' Tyson I think was quite durable both physically and mentally.

                      Evander Holyfeild.
                      Mike Tyson.
                      David Tua.
                      Oliver McCall.
                      George Foreman.

                      Lennox Lewis 'Tougher and more durable than people give him credit for etc'.

                      These where pretty much the most durable fighters of the 90's 'The fighters highlighted where overall the most durable etc'.
                      Not only were these five durable fighters, but four of them were world champions. The only exception to winning that coveted title was David Tua, but they all had one punch brutal knockout power.

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