Where does Boxing rank as far as in popularity in American sports ?

[Toffee]

Good point. It's debatable how you actually measure sports against each other. And boxings biggest events are working on a different model than most sports.

Like for example how many folks woulda watched Floyd vs Manny if it was on free TV or basic cable? And how many mfers would pay $100 to watch the Super Bowl or NBA Finals? Those are considerations when measuring sports against each other that bring in revenue differently.

Personally I consider it a mix of ratings/sales & my feelings on how much folks talk about the people in specific sports & those sports in general.

Good examples, but then the NFL is smart enough (along with every other sport) to not put a $100 paywall around an event.

Boxing still living with an outdated model that limits its exposure and puts short term cash ahead of long term growth.

Boxing is an incredible sport, yet we limit it to to people who are already hardcore fans.

[Marchegiano]

Funny to me how clearly localized these answers are.

Beercules didn't even include motorsport. I'm from the south so the **** do I know, but, seems wrong to me. Not just NASCAR but that is the big one I reckon. Indy500, drag, rock climbing, dirt track, all that **** is super popular.

But

Outwest says NHL ain't bigger than combat sports. I'd say it is but I live near the Florida Rays. We have hockey in the sunshine state so again, the **** do I know.

Would be interesting to know more on demographics and such. I don't think eyes, or asses in seats, or how much money the events generate as a sport in total are good indicators of popularity because all the various sports are set up very differently.

Motorsports have ****ing massive stadiums. When you look up **** like who has the largest you get **** like "excluding horse and car racing"

For example:


Wiki list of Sports Stadiums by Capacity:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_stadiums_by_capacity

1) Rungrado 1st of May Stadium 114,000

okay, but

Wiki List of sporting venues with a highest attendance of 100,000 or more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...te%20400%2C000.

1) Indianapolis Motor Speedway 350,000

With a capacity of 400,000 total.


So, I'm sure Motorsports get more asses in seats than anyone else, but, I'm not sure that makes them more popular so much as convenient. I know a lot of folks who go to Daytona every year but don't really follow NASCAR, they just like going to Daytona. So i'm not sure attendance = fans = market penetration.


Anyway, I though that was interesting.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Funny to me how clearly localized these answers are.

Beercules didn't even include motorsport. I'm from the south so the **** do I know, but, seems wrong to me. Not just NASCAR but that is the big one I reckon. Indy500, drag, rock climbing, dirt track, all that **** is super popular.

But

Outwest says NHL ain't bigger than combat sports. I'd say it is but I live near the Florida Rays. We have hockey in the sunshine state so again, the **** do I know.

Would be interesting to know more on demographics and such. I don't think eyes, or asses in seats, or how much money the events generate as a sport in total are good indicators of popularity because all the various sports are set up very differently.

Motorsports have ****ing massive stadiums. When you look up **** like who has the largest you get **** like "excluding horse and car racing"

For example:


Wiki list of Sports Stadiums by Capacity:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_stadiums_by_capacity

1) Rungrado 1st of May Stadium 114,000

okay, but

Wiki List of sporting venues with a highest attendance of 100,000 or more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...te%20400%2C000.

1) Indianapolis Motor Speedway 350,000

With a capacity of 400,000 total.


So, I'm sure Motorsports get more asses in seats than anyone else, but, I'm not sure that makes them more popular so much as convenient. I know a lot of folks who go to Daytona every year but don't really follow NASCAR, they just like going to Daytona. So i'm not sure attendance = fans = market penetration.


Anyway, I though that was interesting.

It is also about demographics 'Working class people really only watch combat sports, and maybe afew team-sports'.

Who attends these motor sports events? Most of them are not working class people.

Boxing in my opinion is still, a top-5 blue collar sports in america etc.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Funny to me how clearly localized these answers are.

Beercules didn't even include motorsport. I'm from the south so the **** do I know, but, seems wrong to me. Not just NASCAR but that is the big one I reckon. Indy500, drag, rock climbing, dirt track, all that **** is super popular.

But

Outwest says NHL ain't bigger than combat sports. I'd say it is but I live near the Florida Rays. We have hockey in the sunshine state so again, the **** do I know.

Would be interesting to know more on demographics and such. I don't think eyes, or asses in seats, or how much money the events generate as a sport in total are good indicators of popularity because all the various sports are set up very differently.

Motorsports have ****ing massive stadiums. When you look up **** like who has the largest you get **** like "excluding horse and car racing"

For example:


Wiki list of Sports Stadiums by Capacity:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_stadiums_by_capacity

1) Rungrado 1st of May Stadium 114,000

okay, but

Wiki List of sporting venues with a highest attendance of 100,000 or more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...te%20400%2C000.

1) Indianapolis Motor Speedway 350,000

With a capacity of 400,000 total.


So, I'm sure Motorsports get more asses in seats than anyone else, but, I'm not sure that makes them more popular so much as convenient. I know a lot of folks who go to Daytona every year but don't really follow NASCAR, they just like going to Daytona. So i'm not sure attendance = fans = market penetration.


Anyway, I though that was interesting.

Up here in the North Midwest id say Hockey is pretty popular. By no means is it as popular as NFL or NBA but most of the schools have a hockey team.

Some colleges the biggest sport they have is Hockey. Plus people play on the ice every winter.

I think we have like one or two combat gyms where I live. Not a lot of people into boxing. More people prefer MMA.

[youbeight]

Kids have never grown up, wanting to be heavyweight champion universally 'Boxing is a sport that requires you to be different'. At no point in human history have children in mass, collectively wanted to become the heavyweight Champion 'Boxing is a brutal activity'.

Lets not forget? The term sport was used to describe pursuits and past-times such as Track and Field athletics, which was the only other real global sport pre-1950 along with Boxing etc 'Boxing for 90% of its history was also never described as a sport or leisure activity' Because it is not a leisure activity.

The world has changed, society gives people many more opportunities to make a living or propel themselves to stardom and great esteem 'The kids that pursue boxing, have to be different' even from other kids who are also pursuing ambitions in other sports. They have to be different, because the risks on a daily basis are not the same 'Boxing is the hurt game'.

Boxing in my opinion? Is doing fine.

Muhammad Ali inspired alot of kids to grow up to become HW champ in the USA. especially young black kids. nowadays those kids look up LeBron James and other relevant black athletes that are not fighters.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Muhammad Ali inspired alot of kids to grow up to become HW champ in the USA. especially young black kids. nowadays those kids look up LeBron James and other relevant black athletes that are not fighters.

Kids have never in mass, aspired to become the heavyweight champion of the world 'Kids will know, if they are cut out to fight early on' going back in history it has always been this way.

Team sports are more friendly, safe and inclusive 'That is why kids will look up to people like Lebron James'.

Note: youbeight did you want to become heavyweight champion as a kid? It is a myth that there was a time in history when kids where all dreaming of becoming heavyweight champion. Boxing is a serious dark sport 'Only a certain type of child would of been pursing such a sport etc'.

Muhammad Ali did not inspire a lot of kids, to become heavyweight champion 'But he did inspire them in many other area's'. Muhammad Ali inspired a select few in regards to boxing 'Roy Jones Junior has explained 'That when he first watched Muhammad Ali beat Joe Frazier in their second fight? That was the moment which inspired him to take up boxing'.

[youbeight]

Kids have never in mass, aspired to become the heavyweight champion of the world 'Kids will know, if they are cut out to fight early on' going back in history it has always been this way.

Team sports are more friendly, safe and inclusive 'That is why kids will look up to people like Lebron James'.

Note: youbeight did you want to become heavyweight champion as a kid? It is a myth that there was a time in history when kids where all dreaming of becoming heavyweight champion. Boxing is a serious dark sport 'Only a certain type of child would of been pursing such a sport etc'.

Muhammad Ali did not inspire a lot of kids, to become heavyweight champion 'But he did inspire them in many other area's'. Muhammad Ali inspired a select few in regards to boxing 'Roy Jones Junior has explained 'That when he first watched Muhammad Ali beat Joe Frazier in their second fight? That was the moment which inspired him to take up boxing'.

I wasnt born in the era of looking up to Ali. i was born in the era of looking up Mike Tyson and yeah outside of tyson and michael jordan it was hard to find kids who wanted to pick tyson. but in ali era nfl wasnt as popular. black people in baseball wasnt that robust and nba didnt really take off bc you had games on tape delay still. in Ali time you have a ton of black kids who wanted to be him and went to boxing gyms. thats what ultimately lead to the golden age of USA boxing. cant get there if kids werent inspired. before ali you had very little motivation from guys like joe louis. Ali was different.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I wasnt born in the era of looking up to Ali. i was born in the era of looking up Mike Tyson and yeah outside of tyson and michael jordan it was hard to find kids who wanted to pick tyson. but in ali era nfl wasnt as popular. black people in baseball wasnt that robust and nba didnt really take off bc you had games on tape delay still. in Ali time you have a ton of black kids who wanted to be him and went to boxing gyms. thats what ultimately lead to the golden age of USA boxing. cant get there if kids werent inspired. before ali you had very little motivation from guys like joe louis. Ali was different.

Kids did not pick Mike Tyson 'Because only certain kids, have a appetite for violence'. It has nothing to do with how popular basketball, baseball or NFL is 'Only certain people have a appetite for violence' And it has always been this way throughout history.

Not everyone is drawn towards Violence youbeight.

[LoadedWraps]

Is Boxing still in the top 5 most popular sports in America ?

What time capsule have you crawled out of?

Boxing hasn't been considered a major sport in the US since like the 80s.

Baseball, basketball, american football, hockey, and tennis are all more popular.

Boxing is a niche sport like most forms of racing, and other combat sports. The ever embarrassing laughing stock of a league MLS probably gets far more attention than boxing but as a futbol snob I won't watch MLS as a matter of principle.

[youbeight]

Kids did not pick Mike Tyson 'Because only certain kids, have a appetite for violence'. It has nothing to do with how popular basketball, baseball or NFL is 'Only certain people have a appetite for violence' And it has always been this way throughout history.

Not everyone is drawn towards Violence youbeight.

which is why you had athletes like michael jordan who become cultural phenomenons to take away from that. jordan was the face of US sports for nearly a decade as boxing became more of niche sport. but when Ali was HW champ he inspired a generation of golden era of fighters. kids wanted to be ali.