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    1./ Are rematch clauses a con? Cowardly? How can someone be supremely confident, if they need a rematch clause?

    2./ Should rematch clauses work both ways? How is it fair for them to only work one way?

    3./ Should the rematch clause be scrapped all together?

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    Some examples to this nonsense:

    AJ got leathered by fatty Ruiz. AJ then forced the rematch through a clause, and won the rematch very unconvincingly, after fatty Ruiz had been living like he'd won the lottery for 6 months. AJ ran for the hills, not wanting to see fatty in the opposing corner ever again. I'm not the only one who'd like to have seen AJ-Ruiz III, with Ruiz actually motivated, but there's zero chance. You often see this nonsense happen, no doubt they will do the same between Whyte and Povetkin. If there's a rematch clause in fight I, should there be an automatic rule, Fighter A can have his rematch (fight II), but only if Fighter B gets a rematch clause in the rematch (potential fight III). That would be fair.

    Another example, at the opposite end of the scale, is Fury and Wilder. Fury beat Wilder clear in fight I but got robbed of the victory. I am surprised team Wilder even took fight II, but they did, and justice was served in emphatic fashion. Fury crushed Wilder, making it 2 wins out of 2 for him. Now, we have a rematch clause which Wilder is apparently going to take, making for a fight III that nobody cares to see. Wilder was outclassed for the majority of the first two fights, he is clearly levels below the Gypsy King, and his only chance is a lottery punch. But alas, rematch clauses doe.

    I would like to hear people's opinions on the rematch clause.

  • #2
    Rematches are a thing born from pride. A boxer worth anything will want revenge. Some rematches are epic.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post
      Rematches are a thing born from pride. A boxer worth anything will want revenge. Some rematches are epic.
      Is it revenge though, or insecurity? How can a man say "No doubt in my mind, I am supremely confident, I am going to crush/outbox/humble/KTFO my opponent", then in the next breath, "Rematch clause just incase doe!"

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      • #4
        Originally posted by W1LL View Post
        Is it revenge though, or insecurity? How can a man say "No doubt in my mind, I am supremely confident, I am going to crush/outbox/humble/KTFO my opponent", then in the next breath, "Rematch clause just incase doe!"
        Everyone is confident they are going to win. Needing a clause is usually reserved for major fights (revenge plus $$$$).

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        • #5
          Rematches should be ordered on close fights. It’s bull**** that Canelo could run from fighting G a second time, but Joshua could run his way to a UD and then talk like he’s the top talent.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by W1LL View Post
            1./ Are rematch clauses a con? Cowardly? How can someone be supremely confident, if they need a rematch clause?

            2./ Should rematch clauses work both ways? How is it fair for them to only work one way?

            3./ Should the rematch clause be scrapped all together?

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            Some examples to this nonsense:

            AJ got leathered by fatty Ruiz. AJ then forced the rematch through a clause, and won the rematch very unconvincingly, after fatty Ruiz had been living like he'd won the lottery for 6 months. AJ ran for the hills, not wanting to see fatty in the opposing corner ever again. I'm not the only one who'd like to have seen AJ-Ruiz III, with Ruiz actually motivated, but there's zero chance. You often see this nonsense happen, no doubt they will do the same between Whyte and Povetkin. If there's a rematch clause in fight I, should there be an automatic rule, Fighter A can have his rematch (fight II), but only if Fighter B gets a rematch clause in the rematch (potential fight III). That would be fair.

            Another example, at the opposite end of the scale, is Fury and Wilder. Fury beat Wilder clear in fight I but got robbed of the victory. I am surprised team Wilder even took fight II, but they did, and justice was served in emphatic fashion. Fury crushed Wilder, making it 2 wins out of 2 for him. Now, we have a rematch clause which Wilder is apparently going to take, making for a fight III that nobody cares to see. Wilder was outclassed for the majority of the first two fights, he is clearly levels below the Gypsy King, and his only chance is a lottery punch. But alas, rematch clauses doe.

            I would like to hear people's opinions on the rematch clause.
            - -What grade they set U back this year?

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            • #7
              Long time champions deserve rematches 'Close fights warrant rematches also'.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by W1LL View Post
                1./ Are rematch clauses a con? Cowardly? How can someone be supremely confident, if they need a rematch clause?

                2./ Should rematch clauses work both ways? How is it fair for them to only work one way?

                3./ Should the rematch clause be scrapped all together?

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                Some examples to this nonsense:

                AJ got leathered by fatty Ruiz. AJ then forced the rematch through a clause, and won the rematch very unconvincingly, after fatty Ruiz had been living like he'd won the lottery for 6 months. AJ ran for the hills, not wanting to see fatty in the opposing corner ever again. I'm not the only one who'd like to have seen AJ-Ruiz III, with Ruiz actually motivated, but there's zero chance. You often see this nonsense happen, no doubt they will do the same between Whyte and Povetkin. If there's a rematch clause in fight I, should there be an automatic rule, Fighter A can have his rematch (fight II), but only if Fighter B gets a rematch clause in the rematch (potential fight III). That would be fair.

                Another example, at the opposite end of the scale, is Fury and Wilder. Fury beat Wilder clear in fight I but got robbed of the victory. I am surprised team Wilder even took fight II, but they did, and justice was served in emphatic fashion. Fury crushed Wilder, making it 2 wins out of 2 for him. Now, we have a rematch clause which Wilder is apparently going to take, making for a fight III that nobody cares to see. Wilder was outclassed for the majority of the first two fights, he is clearly levels below the Gypsy King, and his only chance is a lottery punch. But alas, rematch clauses doe.

                I would like to hear people's opinions on the rematch clause.

                Who gives a fuq if it means getting more voluntary fights like Whyte - Povetkin, AJ - Ruiz etc.

                Real cowardice (if we're calling fighters cowards now) is taking on opponents like Schwarz, Wallin and eveyone on Wilders record not a mando or named Fury/Ortiz.

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                • #9
                  No.

                  If you sign a contract that has a rematch clause in it then you have no room for complaint.

                  Case in point, Joshua got beaten half to death, flogged, eviscerated, demolished and destroyed by a morbidly obese, midget Mexican who is a medically disabled person who shouldn't even have been granted a boxing licence but, said Mexican signed a contract that had a rematch clause

                  Nobody forces anyone to sign a contract.

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                  • #10
                    Also tbh Ruiz hasn't really been asking for a rematch either, does he actually even want one? So there's that.

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