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  • Tyistall
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    #31
    Originally posted by Timur78
    Last 4-5 fights I watched, Fury was definitely OFF any PEDs.
    Incidentally that's when I began appreciating his boxing.

    No, I didn't know about Fury and nandrolone before.
    But have have just read up about it now.

    I disliked or didn't appreciate Tyson Fury because he wasn't a HW destroyer.
    When I had a closer look at his fights, I was very impressed with his physical gifts and boxing IQ.
    Ok. But now that you know he is a PEDs user, does that taint his accomplishments? And do you find it odd (because I do) that he comes in at 273 and strong in the last fight all of a sudden? Similar to Lance Armstrong, after he has been found to be a steroids cheat, everything he has done since should be in question. At least that's how I see it

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      #32
      Originally posted by Tyistall
      Ok. But now that you know he is a PEDs user, does that taint his accomplishments? And do you find it odd (because I do) that he comes in at 273 and strong in the last fight all of a sudden? Similar to Lance Armstrong, after he has been found to be a steroids cheat, everything he has done since should be in question. At least that's how I see it
      He's been trying to cut down in weight his whole career, under the illusion that he needs to maximizer speed, which he doesn't, he's fast enough at 270. sugar Hill told him to stop doing that and just train hard eat well and come in whatever he weighs.

      Obviously if you stop doing training camps in a calorie defect and come in 20lbs heavier you are going to be a lot stronger. Go lose 20-30lb in 12 weeks and see how much strength you lose.

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      • Tyistall
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        #33
        Originally posted by LDBC Slayer
        He's been trying to cut down in weight his whole career, under the illusion that he needs to maximizer speed, which he doesn't, he's fast enough at 270. sugar Hill told him to stop doing that and just train hard eat well and come in whatever he weighs.

        Obviously if you stop doing training camps in a calorie defect and come in 20lbs heavier you are going to be a lot stronger. Go lose 20-30lb in 12 weeks and see how much strength you lose.
        Riiiiiight, but the steroids, care to comment on that?

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          #34
          Originally posted by Tyistall
          Riiiiiight, but the steroids, care to comment on that?
          Due to the nature of the case against him I can't for 100% say he was on "steroids"

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          • Timur78
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            #35
            Originally posted by Tyistall
            Ok. But now that you know he is a PEDs user, does that taint his accomplishments? And do you find it odd (because I do) that he comes in at 273 and strong in the last fight all of a sudden? Similar to Lance Armstrong, after he has been found to be a steroids cheat, everything he has done since should be in question. At least that's how I see it
            Like I said, Fury's last 4-5 fights he was off PEDs
            and I was very impressed with his boxing skills for a big man.

            Does it taint his accomplishments during PED use.
            Yes of course it does.

            Do I find it strange he comes strong at 273?
            No. He is 6 foot 9. What weight he comes in is up to him and his team.
            All boxers, especially HW tailor their weight for specific opponent.
            AJ did in Ruiz rematch. Wilder did in Fury rematch.

            Fury does not display the usual PED-use physique characteristics.
            And he has been testing negative as far as it's known.
            Why look for something that just isn't there?

            If you want PED physique. Look at how Evander Holyfield used to look
            at Cruiser and at Heavyweight. Look at his shoulders and traps.
            Look at ridiculous punch resistance.

            If I wanted to question a Heavyweight for PED use.
            I might look at Anthony Joshua. But it could just be
            superior genetics and hard work in the gym.

            Lance Armstrong was found to be on PEDs for all his major wins.
            VADA testing in Boxing is stringent now and does the job,
            so I see no reason to question Fury's accomplishments when he is
            testing negative in VADA tests.

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            • Tyistall
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              #36
              Originally posted by LDBC Slayer
              Due to the nature of the case against him I can't for 100% say he was on "steroids"
              Wow. You have drank the kool aid.

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              • Tyistall
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                #37
                Originally posted by LDBC Slayer
                He's been trying to cut down in weight his whole career, under the illusion that he needs to maximizer speed, which he doesn't, he's fast enough at 270. sugar Hill told him to stop doing that and just train hard eat well and come in whatever he weighs.

                Obviously if you stop doing training camps in a calorie defect and come in 20lbs heavier you are going to be a lot stronger. Go lose 20-30lb in 12 weeks and see how much strength you lose.
                They made excuses for Lance Armstrong too before he admitted it. I swear you guys are sheep.

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