Could HAMED have beaten Barrera in Rematch? AJ and Fury WON significant rematches...

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  • frosty-g
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    #11
    Originally posted by kidbazooka
    Hahahaha

    Ok I can say that too. You obviously have no real boxing knowledge besides being biased toward Brits.

    Hamed with or with Ingle was not gonna beat Barrera, style was all bad for him plain and simple.

    Cmon man Vasquez was well past it when he faced Hamed and Boom boom Jonson was not on Hameds and MABs level.

    Hamed was gifted physically but he always lacked text book skill that you could see from his early days.
    Manny Steward reckoned Hamed coulda beaten Barrera without too much problem but Hamed at that point wasn't training properly - was just practicing big single shots on the bag, did virtually no sparring and struggled to get the weight off.
    at the end of the day he didn't do what was necessary for a fight against a super sharp Barrera, who was an absolutely superb fighter anyway - look at some of Barrera's other fights around that time, he was ripping through the opposition.
    on top form Hamed would have certainly had a good chance.

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    • PRINCEKOOL
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      #12
      Most definitely.

      It was not as if Prince Naseem Hamed was beaten up, or humiliated 'On his worst night, he still went 12 rounds with Marco Antonio Barrera'.

      Hamed's timing, fitness and sharpness was clearly off etc

      Note: Prince Naseem Hamed could fight text book 'If he wanted to, but that was not the Ingle gym philosophy'. Usually fighters who rely too much of fundamental text book fighting 'Are the less gifted athletes in boxing' The Ingle gym forced fighters into becoming geniuses inside of the ring.
      Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 09-14-2020, 05:31 PM.

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      • edgarg
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        #13
        Hamed was on verge of retiring for 2-3 years before Barrera

        Originally posted by deathofaclown
        I believe Hamed a year or two earlier would’ve beaten Barrera but his hands were shot to bits And he was never training properly by the time they fought.

        So I doubt a rematch would’ve gone much different by that point.
        This above says it exactly. Hamed was actually a phenomenon in boxing. He pioneered the huge purses for the lighter weights, but a few years before Barerra he was already contemplating retirement because of his hands, (he was a monstrous puncher and always had something broken during a fight) his huge money, and his total lack of interest in training. He had achieved and gathered in the Gravy Train.

        As we see, in later life he let himself go the way he wanted to..... a 220 lb featherweight .....-
        or a 5' 4" Heavyweight.

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        • KingOfGlory
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          #14
          Maybe if he ran away in fear in an oversized ring from a smaller obese Barrera in Saudi Arabia.

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          • edgarg
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            #15
            Hmmmm??

            Originally posted by kidbazooka
            Lol

            Did you guys actually watch Hamed or just his YouTube HLs?

            The guy was flawed as fuxxxk always getting wobbled and knocked down chin in the air no combos only one shot at a time yes it worked with lower level compe but the moment he faced an elite top fighter we all seen what happened.

            Barrera whoops Hamed all day every day.
            I don't agree with your blanket dismissal of Hamed. I have seen most, or all of his important fights, and he could box perfectly if he felt like it. But he loved being unorthodox...being the showman extraordinaire, his entrances and somersaults, which brought the crowds flocking in.

            He also loved tempting opponents with his chin, hearing the "oohs" of the crowds, swaying for the miss and then making them pay. He toyed with almost every one of his opponents at some points in the fights.

            An orthodox Hamed would have been just a good boxer with a monstrous punch, would have achieved the same boxing heights, but not the financial nor notoriety peaks he aimed for.
            Last edited by edgarg; 09-14-2020, 05:53 PM. Reason: inserting inverted commas

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            • boliodogs
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              #16
              Hell No but who ever said he could and why bring it up at this late date. The loss was so bad he quit boxing at a pretty young age unless he quit boxing for some other reason I don't know about..

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