Should GGG sue DAZN for breach of contract?

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  • boliodogs
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    #11
    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
    Here's one right here. This was written back in August of 2019. Everything has fallen into place since then. Including GGG snatching Dervy from Canelo. That fight was announced in late August.



    Canelo Alvarez is unhappy with his promotional outfit and its semi-leader/figurehead, Oscar De La Hoya. That much you can read anywhere. But here are some reasons -- all of which I shared with Golden...


    Canelo has been sabotaged!
    GGG did not snatch the Dervy fight from Canelo. He had nothing to do with that
    . Canelo refused to make the fight. Canelo could have gone to purse bid also but he refused and gave up his belt instead. Don't blame that on GGG because it was all canelo's own doing.

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    • Real King Kong
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      #12
      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
      Yes. He's the one that set this all in motion last year when he sent DAZN a letter telling them if he doesn't get the Canelo fight he wants a title shot and that's how GGG ended up snatching Derveychenco from Canelo. Dervy took less money on paper to fight GGG than he wouldve fighting Canelo.

      When the smoke clears you all will see how DAZN, Oscar, and Eddie sabotaged Canelo.
      Canelo could have fought ggg himself, there was nothing stopping him. That was arguably the biggest fight in the sport. But you’d rather talk about ggg “snatching” a lesser opponent away from canelo, instead of canelo turning the ggg fight down.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Real King Kong
        Canelo could have fought ggg himself, there was nothing stopping him. That was arguably the biggest fight in the sport. But you’d rather talk about ggg “snatching” a lesser opponent away from canelo, instead of canelo turning the ggg fight down.
        He agreed to fight GGG in May of 2020. GGG said he wanted to fight that guy he's fighting now and they agreed to fight in September of 2020. Of course Covid threw those plans out of the window but Canelo isn't the reason they haven't fought yet.

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          #14
          Originally posted by R-C
          IMO, he should. He was promised in writing that he would get Canelo, but looks like DAZN will not hold up their end of the contract.

          Now, do i believe he would sue? I don’t think so because GGG is content in fighting c-level fighters.

          Thoughts?
          Was a Canelo fight part of the contract like you suggest?

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            #15
            Nah. If he sues DAZN, his career is over as he'll be stuck in legal limbo until 40.

            It doesn't sound like DAZN will be able to get out from Szeremeta fight since they signed for it, which will mean he'll have $45M/3 fights left. If he proposes an opponents for the 4th fight (not Canelo because of lawsuit), and DAZN turns them down, it's highly likely they can amicably separate, and he can fight for on Showtime for $10m/each. or if he gets tired of fighting, then he can sue DAZN.

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              #16
              Originally posted by j0zef
              Nah. If he sues DAZN, his career is over as he'll be stuck in legal limbo until 40.

              It doesn't sound like DAZN will be able to get out from Szeremeta fight since they signed for it, which will mean he'll have $45M/3 fights left. If he proposes an opponents for the 4th fight (not Canelo because of lawsuit), and DAZN turns them down, it's highly likely they can amicably separate, and he can fight for on Showtime for $10m/each. or if he gets tired of fighting, then he can sue DAZN.
              lol nobody is paying GGG that much money. He's nothing without Canelo.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                lol nobody is paying GGG that much money. He's nothing without Canelo.
                Based on what? He was making $5-7M vs. Brook and Jacobs before Canelo exposure. After those 2 fights and before signing with DAZN, he was offered 10 or 12m by Showtime or ESPN (unless my memory is deceiving me). Since then, he's been in a fight of the year candidate against Derevyanchenko.

                Arum will easily throw $10M at him to fight Murata in Tokyo, and it would be very easy to make him fight the winner of Sergey/Jermall. If Saunders is able to get in decent shape, Hearn can sell that fight too since it's been talked to for 4 years.

                G is the B side against Canelo, but to pretend he's 'nothing' is laughable.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                  He agreed to fight GGG in May of 2020. GGG said he wanted to fight that guy he's fighting now and they agreed to fight in September of 2020. Of course Covid threw those plans out of the window but Canelo isn't the reason they haven't fought yet.
                  We’re talking about when canelo sat out in September to avoid ggg, not what happened after the kovalev fight. Not sure why you brought any of that up when you were talking about the derev situation in the first place.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by j0zef
                    Based on what? He was making $5-7M vs. Brook and Jacobs before Canelo exposure. After those 2 fights and before signing with DAZN, he was offered 10 or 12m by Showtime or ESPN (unless my memory is deceiving me). Since then, he's been in a fight of the year candidate against Derevyanchenko.

                    Arum will easily throw $10M at him to fight Murata in Tokyo, and it would be very easy to make him fight the winner of Sergey/Jermall. If Saunders is able to get in decent shape, Hearn can sell that fight too since it's been talked to for 4 years.

                    G is the B side against Canelo, but to pretend he's 'nothing' is laughable.
                    Brook was a PPV in the UK and those numbers you're naming aren't accurate

                    Jacobs was a PPV in America that did less than 200k and his base salary before upside was $2.5 mil. How you're getting an extra $2.5-$4.5 mil upside is beyond me.

                    Arum is cheap. He is not paying GGG $10 mil. That was the first deal GGG rejected when he was a free agent. DAZN isn't even paying GGG $10 ffs. He's getting $7 mil and stock options. His value is tied to Canelo. Without Canelo he's not driving any subscriptions or selling any PPV's.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                      Brook was a PPV in the UK and those numbers you're naming aren't accurate

                      Jacobs was a PPV in America that did less than 200k and his base salary before upside was $2.5 mil. How you're getting an extra $2.5-$4.5 mil upside is beyond me.

                      Arum is cheap. He is not paying GGG $10 mil. That was the first deal GGG rejected when he was a free agent. DAZN isn't even paying GGG $10 ffs. He's getting $7 mil and stock options. His value is tied to Canelo. Without Canelo he's not driving any subscriptions or selling any PPV's.
                      https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/3/1...obs-boxing-ppv
                      Reportedly, GGG earned $5 million for his 5th round TKO win over Kell Brook in England
                      I'm too lazy to find the buried article about Jacobs final purses. For basic math, 170k * $65 = $11m + $3.7M gate + merchandise ~= $15m. To make it easier, we'll assume arenas and HBO took 50% of each, leaving $7.5m for fighters. PPV split was in G's favor, even if we conservatively say it was 60/40, that's $4.5m.

                      And your argument for Arum not paying Golovkin $10m is that........ he offered it to him before, but now he wont?

                      Glad you're back.

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