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It amazes that fans don’t have a clue of rival promoters and purse bids. The point of purse bids is promoters not agreeing to the splits... lol.
Remember when Oscar said GGG was being offered an 8 figure paycheck, take it or leave it, Loeffler and gang begged the WBC to encore a purse bid just a week after the Khan fight for them to cut a deal. Lol. GGG fans on the forum proceeded to splits saying “50/50” because GGG had all the belts.
Again, the Canelo haters don’t understand rivalry purse bids. Granted GBP and it’s ego for net worth compared to K2. Why would GBP entertain a purse bid with Tom Loeffler?Comment
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Again... fans still don’t understand the nature of purse of bids. With GGG’s combined career or 90K + 150K PPV with Jacobs warrants a purse bid or should GGG have agreed to Oscar’s 8 figure offer to begin with? I know it’s rhetorical since GGG made more in the end game. But how many PPV’s did Canelo do vs GGG?? Fans need to understand what a duck is vs negotiations for splits.Comment
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Of course mayne!
But more importantly, Canelo fought GGG twice. Their rivalry including the time he initially vacated the WBC is the same amount of time as the Wilder vs AJ narratives, a good 2+ years. Did the AJ Wilder fight even have a rematch?!
Or rather, how long has the Crawford vs Spence narrative gone? 2+ years? Willl they fight?
I know GGG and Canelo did... twice... yet fans claim Canelo “ducked” without knowing the nature of purse bids that industry itself reported ffs...Comment
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Don't cry about Canelo haters when you are an extreme hater of GGG, Spence, Loma,Bivol,Plant and the Charlo brothers who you call the Charlo sisters. You set up these polls and then try to influence the results of the poll with a speech that is a pack of lies. Canelo ducked a rematch with GGG for two years and he intends to continue to duck him for ever. Ward was just made a media challenge for publicity when GGG already had a fight with Lemieux and was legally bound by contract to fight Lemieux or get sued. By the time GGG KOed Lemieux Ward had moved to 175 and said he was never returning to 168. Ward never offered GGG a ***ing dime to fight him or ever sent him any written offer to fight. Ward just talked a bunch of BS. You are one of the biggest Canelo dic Sukers on the forum. You start thread after thread day after day trying to make Canelo into a god while trashing GGG and other good champions. You are a disgusting pathetic hypocrite. Don't cry about Canelo haters.
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You mean a statement like this?
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these ward fans(ggg haters) are just like trumpists. they just create their own reality. there is already a thread debunking the ggg ducked ward fake myth they made up.
ggg tried to figth ward in 2012-13 and ward said no while trying to fight guys like dmitri sartison. thats on record so how in the world are you even saying he ducked him starting in 2012? makes absolutely no sense.
then ward became irrelevant and got thrown off hbo. in 2015 when he had no pull and was fighting on BET he wanted a 50-50 split, and for ggg to postpone the canelo fight for more than a year(confirmed by roc nation president) all this while the wbc had already said canelo-cotto winner had to fight ggg next so why would he sign a 2 fight deal to fight ward?
if ward wanted to fight ggg why didnt he offer him a 1 fight deal? why did he need more tune ups fights after just fighting paul smith? why did wards team forget that ggg was supposed to fight cotto or canelo next? why did they only offer a multi fight deal that would have tied him up for a year? all and all a fake offer for publicity and nothing more. he hadn't fought at 168 since 2013 and hes going to fight ggg at 168 in 2016? absurd. anyone who believes this is just being ignorantComment
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The touted split was 55/45, which was a puzzle to me cos I couldn't figure out where it came from although it appeared in numerous articles at the time.
In fact the split for all challengers was 70/30 from the 2011 rules onwards. You gotta go back to 2009 to find the 45/55 split for interims as far as I've been able to tell and even there it's discretionary.
Section c is omitted for all revisions of the rules upto and including the 2015 revision which the bout was made under.2.12 Division of Proceeds in a Purse Offer. The net purse offer (after deduction of the WBC certification fees) shall be divided as follows:
a) 70% for the champion and 30% for the challenger.
b) 50% to each contender in the case of vacant titles or elimination bouts.
c) 55% to the champion and 45% to the interim champion, in the event of such a bout.
d) Notwithstanding the terms of subparagraphs a), b) and c) above, the Board of Governors may, in its discretion and by a majority vote, modify the division of purse offer proceeds between boxers in a purse offer in unusual or special cases, like the consideration of the outstanding marketing value of one of the boxers. The modification of the split will be limited to three categories: 70-30%; 60-40%; and 55-45% for the Champion and challenger, respectively, except in the most exceptional circumstances, in which the split may be modified to 50-50%
Not quite sure who began with that 55/45 idea but it was innaccurate. Ain't saying 70/30 was reasonable necessarily either, just that I've seen a lotta folk using 40 or 45 to justify Canelo dropping the belt. Way I see it the fight ultimately happened exactly when Oscar said it would back in early 2015 'In a couple of years'. Not sure we need to look too much deeper than that.
Guaranteed purses for GGG vs Canelo I seem to have been $5 mil for Canelo and $3 mil for Golovkin best I can tell, or 62.5 / 37.5... which is higher than GGG would have been guaranteed under WBC rules back in 2016.
In fact I don't recall Canelo or Oscar saying it was about the money at all, merely that they wouldn't be constrained by 'unreasonable time limits' (despite having promised to fight GGG next)... could be mistaken but best I remember the money / split thing came from reporters and/or fans who ran with it.
-best I've been able to tell the 55/45 figure first appeared in this Rafael article but I could be wrong.
The bid amount is split between the fighters, generally a 55-45 split in the case of a WBC title fight between a titleholder and interim titlist.I will fight GGG, and I will beat GGG, but I will not be forced into the ring by artificial deadlines.Last edited by Citizen Koba; 09-08-2020, 06:39 PM.Comment
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