Why Canelo fans pretend like Canelo is on higher level than GGG

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  • Boxing-1013
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    #11
    Originally posted by NearHypnos
    That’s....not how it works at all man lmao. Let it go. We actually have footage of GGG and as he aged and spent more and more time with Abel is when he started looking a lot sharper and scary. Kassim Ouma for example, roughly 9-10 years ago put SERIOUS leather on GGG. The level of Canelo a few years ago is not the level GGG was at when he was the same age.

    Hell, It’s entirely possible we STILL haven’t seen the best Canelo. The absolute bottom line is, GGG lost to the best fighter he ever faced. Did age make a big difference? Small one? Who knows. He looked amazing and had stamina for days. GGG never looked better than he did those nights when you consider who he was fighting.

    A 27 year old GGG vs a Canelo from 6 years from now...unless Canelo goes out and gets crushed Amir Khan style for the next few years, I don’t see how it could be even feasible GGG makes it through 7-8 rounds before being stopped (and thats being generous considering his chin).

    We know how good GGG was, and we know how good Canelo currently is... Add a bit of slowdown (maybe? 36 isnt the same 36 of 30 years ago...) but more experience...yeah man. Don’t do this to yourself.
    Canelo in his prime couldn't even (legit) beat an old GGG lol...what are you smoking with that drivel...the hoops some people have to jump through....

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      #12
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
      Canelo has actually stepped up and challenged himself and taken several big fights.

      Golovkin? Not so much.
      It's easy to 'step up' and make fights (and get fights made) when you're the super A side who calls all the shots and pays everyone very well for their troubles (and pays them for the loss if it is at all close). To argue against that is supreme fan-boy BS

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      • Real King Kong
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        #13
        Head to head, I’d say ggg is on a higher level. He arguably beat a peak canelo twice while in his mid 30’s and clearly past his peak. It’s clear who would have come out on top prime for prime. Canelo has accomplished more on paper tho.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Boxing-1013
          It's easy to 'step up' and make fights (and get fights made) when you're the super A side who calls all the shots and pays everyone very well for their troubles (and pays them for the loss if it is at all close). To argue against that is supreme fan-boy BS
          Yeah, you're never going to convince me that Golovkin always took the best fights he could.

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          • QballLobo
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            #15
            Probably because Canelo owns GGG’s MW titles, legacy, and 0.

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              #16
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
              Yeah, you're never going to convince me that Golovkin always took the best fights he could.
              That's not really my intention...and if 'taking the best fights you can' means giving away all leverage in negotiations (on money and weight) then yeah maybe GGG could have fought a few more top guys like Ward, Lara, Froch, Cotto and maybe Sergio. But I think GGG was always fair enough in negotiations.

              I would have liked to have seen him move up to 168 but all of his big (money) fights were at 160 or below. The two money fights he tried to make above that weight vs Froch and Chavez never happened because the reward wasn't worth the risk for those guys. If Froch is telling the truth that GGG wanted him at 166 instead of '68 though then I would put that on GGG. But I can't take anything Froch says seriously.

              No one else of that type of status seemed even remotely interested in fighting GGG until Canelo finally stepped up.

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                #17
                Originally posted by QballLobo
                Probably because Canelo owns GGG’s MW titles, legacy, and 0.
                He paid him very handsomely for the titles and 0 though. Like literally paid him

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by QballLobo
                  Probably because Canelo owns GGG’s MW titles, legacy, and 0.
                  Canelo at his very prime had 2 close fights with old GGG.

                  What a legend!

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Boxing-1013
                    Canelo in his prime couldn't even (legit) beat an old GGG lol...what are you smoking with that drivel...the hoops some people have to jump through....
                    - -U mean Ol' unbeaten, untied record setting top p4p ranked GGG?

                    What grade U in?

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                    • Thuglife Nelo
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Boxing-1013
                      He paid him very handsomely for the titles and 0 though. Like literally paid him
                      That’s nice! Canelo paid him to act like a betch while fans see and acknowledge that the Mexican is the better fighter. That’s what happens when creep around 160 your whole life while claiming 154-168 was easy!

                      GGG was a fraud to his fans.

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