Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Crawford, Andy Ruiz, Jones, Ramirez-Taylor

[whollisboxing]

No! We can’t agree because although ggg was a bigger threat these other does you mentioned were “all” more well known middleweights and they commanded more money.
(Example) or (comparison) ggg @ 38 is still in good shape enough to beat guys who call him out like Andrade and Charlo and even Benavides and he has zero interest in fighting them for what about 4 years? Nobody says ggg is ducking. Martinez was like 40 years old probably with bad knees, Golovkin never even called him out yet ppl invented a narrative that Martinez ducked Golovkin

Just to address your comparison. No I don't think GGG is ducking the people you mentioned. They are worthy opponents but unfortunately we can't get every fight. I will say that Golovkin made more business sense for Martinez in 2013 than those guys do for Golovkin in 2020.

[JohnCastellanos]

Just to address your comparison. No I don't think GGG is ducking the people you mentioned. They are worthy opponents but unfortunately we can't get every fight. I will say that Golovkin made more business sense for Martinez in 2013 than those guys do for Golovkin in 2020.

“We can’t get every fight” with Golovkins tract record of taking easy fights trust me those fight won’t happen but be prepared for him to finish his career with a 90 percent bum fighting ratio! As far as Martinez in 2013, he was already damaged goods by the Chavez JR fight and only fought once in 2013 in a fight that was very controversial yet he made more money than he would of fighting nobody regular fake champ Golovkin. I think your being biased

[whollisboxing]

“We can’t get every fight” with Golovkins tract record of taking easy fights trust me those fight won’t happen but be prepared for him to finish his career with a 90 percent bum fighting ratio! As far as Martinez in 2013, he was already damaged goods by the Chavez JR fight and only fought once in 2013 in a fight that was very controversial yet he made more money than he would of fighting nobody regular fake champ Golovkin. I think your being biased

Ok here is an objective question: GGG would have been a better opponent for Martinez than Martin Murray, true or false?

If anything I would say it's biased to say Golovkin was a nobody in 2013 because that's simply not true.

Now if you're saying that Martinez shouldn't get any grief for not fighting Golovkin then that's fair.

[JohnCastellanos]

Ok here is an objective question: GGG would have been a better opponent for Martinez than Martin Murray, true or false?

If anything I would say it's biased to say Golovkin was a nobody in 2013 because that's simply not true.

Now if you're saying that Martinez shouldn't get any grief for not fighting Golovkin then that's fair.

Your biased on every point not admitting that Golovkin has avoided fights on purpose. It’s ok after the DC fight it painfully obvious that he really values the momentum his career has gained from the drama shows he’s put on fighting bums. To answer your question Yes Golovkin would have been a better fight for Martinez but as you said it made zero “business sense” because Golovkin was offering very little money and the biggest proof is that Golovkin wasted zero time once Martinez retired in fighting those same guys you say we’re less than Golovkin. Just to end this all I’m saying is that in 2013 Sergio was already damaged goods, he fought once just to stay active until he could get a big money fight and retire in 2014. Golovkin was mentioned once at a press conference and that’s it and on the contrary Charlo Andrade and a Danny Jacobs rematch have been mentioned multiple times. Absolutely zero interest from Golovkin. Now tell me why not the same energy in saying someone is ducking someone? Martinez ducked Golovkin under zero circumstances

[whollisboxing]

Your biased on every point not admitting that Golovkin has avoided fights on purpose. It’s ok after the DC fight it painfully obvious that he really values the momentum his career has gained from the drama shows he’s put on fighting bums. To answer your question Yes Golovkin would have been a better fight for Martinez but as you said it made zero “business sense” because Golovkin was offering very little money and the biggest proof is that Golovkin wasted zero time once Martinez retired in fighting those same guys you say we’re less than Golovkin. Just to end this all I’m saying is that in 2013 Sergio was already damaged goods, he fought once just to stay active until he could get a big money fight and retire in 2014. Golovkin was mentioned once at a press conference and that’s it and on the contrary Charlo Andrade and a Danny Jacobs rematch have been mentioned multiple times. Absolutely zero interest from Golovkin. Now tell me why not the same energy in saying someone is ducking someone? Martinez ducked Golovkin under zero circumstances

The point about Sergio Martinez is fair and again I don't begrudge him for not fighting Golovkin, just like I don't begrudge Golovkin for not fighting Charlo, Andrade, or Danny Jacobs.

I don't begrudge GGG for not fighting those guys because they haven't fought each other either and they are younger. Does GGG have misses? Yes he does and I have never claimed that he's perfect. I just don't agree that he's fought nothing but bums.

We have both had our say so I will close with this: There is a difference between ducking and a fight not happening. I think that Martinez not fighting Golovkin falls under a fight not happening. Thanks for sharing your point of view.