Comments Thread For: Joshua: Once I Get Past Pulev, I Hope Tyson Fury is Next

[Blackstarr]

Wow he beat Charles Martin... amazing...

The same Charles Martin that knocked out Gerald Washington, who was out-boxing Wilder in rounds and has incidentally been the level of opposition Wilder has faced his entire 40+ fight career.

Granted, Charles Martin is a very poor benchmark, but let’s not pretend that AJ hasn’t been matched tougher than anyone in the HW division, despite having the least pro experience by a big margin.

[Jkp]

The same Charles Martin that knocked out Gerald Washington, who was out-boxing Wilder in rounds and has incidentally been the level of opposition Wilder has faced his entire 40+ fight career.

Granted, Charles Martin is a very poor benchmark, but let’s not pretend that AJ hasn’t been matched tougher than anyone in the HW division, despite having the least pro experience by a big margin.

Wow a Charles Martin fan. You are a rare unicorn indeed.

[Blackstarr]

Wow a Charles Martin fan. You are a rare unicorn indeed.

I’m not a fan - Charles Martin shouldn’t have been a champ in any era. All I’m saying is he’s no worse than the fighters Wilder has spent his entire career facing, and is probably better than most of them.

So get out of here with your fanboy mentality. If I say something positive about a fighter, I’m automatically a fan? Probably explains why you’re obsessed with hating on any boxer you don’t cheerlead for.

[REDEEMER]

I don't get it - so Joshua aint unbeatable but has fought Martin, Breazeale, Klitschko, Whyte, Parker, Povetkin, Ruiz...fought on after Klit, Whyte and Ruiz buzzed him...

Fury fought Klitschko and stopped fighting...respect to Fury for getting up and basically beating Wilder twice and fighting through the cut against Wallin...still:

When the resumes are compared...people call JOSHUA the duck? Dude looks like he'll fight ANYONE and got the record to prove it. Fury & Wilder? Not so much.

I don't get it.

AJ already gave it to Fury as a novice amateur while Fury had several pro fights ,don’t let these posters kid you they do it to themselves on here enough .

Saying that Fury declined to fight AJ and opted less money fighting Wilder so ? I know who I’m taking .

[deathofaclown]

Naaaa, you got Usyk after Pulev. . .

Fury thinks that AJ won’t beat Usyk.

Fury said if AJ has to fight all his mandatories before they fight, he might lose.

[deathofaclown]

Fans don't have to be ignorant, anyone can learn boxing. You'd know that if you'd actually been in a ring.

What AJ has done should be taken with context. It's not unfair to him to acknowledge that he beat Wlad after Fury and struggled whereas Fury dominated, or that AJ didn't beat Fury for the belts and thus is a paper champion. It's not unfair to recognize that he quit against Ruiz, regardless of the outcome of the rematch.

Only people who don't actually understand boxing, put their entire argument on a resume. It's the same in any sport. If you can't discuss the actual intricacies of the sport, then you don't know the sport. It's fine when one admits it, but when people act like know it alls when they clearly don't have a clue, those people deserve to be put on blast. Again, its painfully obvious the gap in skillset between AJ and Fury. Don't need resumes to understand this, if you have been around the fight game a bit.

His resume isn’t even that much better than Fury’s, actually it’s not better if you talk about quality of wins.

I wrote in a thread yesterday that you have to remember that Ruiz wasn’t really highly ranked when he beat AJ, he was no 15 with one governing body. Whyte was a novice and it was a British title fight. Takam, Martin and Breazeale are really no better than Chisora, probably worse as we saw Del Boy flatten Takam

All that really leaves is Wlad, Povetkin and Parker as solid wins at the time of fighting them. Wlad had just lost to Fury but a good win. Povetkin is a good win. Jury is out on how good Parker is but I’ll give him that one because he was undefeated.

Fury you can say he has 2 really top wins beating long reigning champs. AJ has 3 solid wins.

I’ll take those 2 wins ending long reigns over those 3 wins any day.

[Blackstarr]

His resume isn’t even that much better than Fury’s, actually it’s not better if you talk about quality of wins.

I wrote in a thread yesterday that you have to remember that Ruiz wasn’t really highly ranked when he beat AJ, he was no 15 with one governing body. Whyte was a novice and it was a British title fight. Takam, Martin and Breazeale are really no better than Chisora, probably worse as we saw Del Boy flatten Takam

All that really leaves is Wlad, Povetkin and Parker as solid wins at the time of fighting them. Wlad had just lost to Fury but a good win. Povetkin is a good win. Jury is out on how good Parker is but I’ll give him that one because he was undefeated.

Fury you can say he has 2 really top wins beating long reigning champs. AJ has 3 solid wins.

I’ll take those 2 wins ending long reigns over those 3 wins any day.

You’re not making a proper comparison. If Klitschko is a really top win for Fury, then it’s a really top win for Joshua, who was still a novice in that fight. You have to remember that AJ took that fight far earlier in his pro development than Fury did, at a stage where Fury was going life and death with an ex-cruiser with 3 losses out of his previous 4 going into that fight.

I’ve said it a number of times, but Fury’s Klitschko win is far better than his win over Wilder. As far as I’m concerned, Wilder is a red herring and the abject mediocrity of Wilder’s opposition means that Fury’s win over him can only be put into context once Wilder re-establishes himself against top 5 opposition.

If you look at Wilder’s opponents in contrast to AJ’s, not one of them has achieved anything of note in consequent fights, and some of his more recent opponents have since been sparked out by the likes of Chisora (Szplika), who in turn was flattened by Whyte, and Charles Martin (Washington)

Fury is an amazing boxer and would be the favourite, but to say their resumes are comparable is nonsense.

[P4Pdunny]

Fury gotta get past Wilder and that isnt a foregone conclusion when you have the punch power of Wilder. He can’t perform any worst than last time out.

[Zelda]

We need to see it happen to believe it.

Somehow, Joshua had problems getting the fight with Wilder and now has problems with getting the fight with Fury done. Why Joshua didn't chose Fury before he went to Wilder? Out of the top 3, two of them have fought each other twice now but the third hasn't fought either. I really hope to see AJ vs Fury and even AJ vs Wilder. Both of them would be exciting matches in the near future before the division is taken over by the upcoming fighters - Dubois, Hrgovic, Ajagba, etc.