Comments Thread For: Bob Arum: I Thought Jose Ramirez Clearly Beat Viktor Postol

[Corelone]

Ramirez can't deal with movement, he didnt cut off the ring well and when he did get close Postol grabbed him. Taylor dealt with the holding better, he broke and punched on the way out, Ramirez just stepped back and reset. Still, hard to pick between him and Taylor. Ramirez is no clinging vine.

[champion4ever]

If Ramirez performs like that against Taylor, or Prograis, he loses imo.

I mostly certainly agree. There's no question about that. If he struggled and had to go life and death with an old and past his prime "The Ice Man" Viktor Postol, then there's no telling what Josh Taylor or Regis Prograis would do to him.

[champion4ever]

I thought Viktor Postol's ring generalship was just superb. Jose Ramirez never could quite figure him out. He had trouble cornering him or pinning him along on the rounds on the inside.

Postol forced him to fight his type of fight because Ramirez could never cut off the ring. Ramirez made Postol looked like Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker.

[Hnnnggg]

Are we still on this? Good grief. All Postol did was land Jabs, nothing else. I don't think some fans realize that this is the pros not the amateurs. In the amateurs scoring is analyzed by who lands any punch. In the pros, and I think some people should read the rules of scoring a professional fight. It clearly states that scoring is not just based on who lands a punch, it's about ring general ship, which Ramirez had control of, he was pressing the fight, it also states, who inflects more damage on their opponent? Which Ramirez did, landing more power punches, hurting Postol several times. The fight was a bit close due to Postol not really engaging and landing some jabs. I'll go with Ward who had Ramirez as the clear winner, I personally had it 115-113 but I wouldn't argue with Ward or the judge who had it 116-112 because Ramirez landed the most telling blows and inflected more damage. I bet if they took a picture of Postol and Ramirez today, you would see who got beat up. As far as Bradley, he roots for that style because that's the way he fought, a guy with no power that uses their jab but never really inflects damage, in the pros for me and what the rules say is who is the fighter the inflects the most damage?, and that was Ramirez my friends, I'm not even a Ramirez fan but he won that fight by at least two rounds.

It was close, but thought postol would nab a decision. Hard to say who did more damage, neither were dropped or stopped and postol looked fresher by the end of the bout. Postol’s conditioning was superb, basically could pot shot Ramirez at will and when he did show his right hand it halted Ramirez’s momentum. I think Garcia urging Ramirez to pick up the pace during the middle and championship rounds was indicative that they felt they were being outboxed at range and were losing on the cards. Post conference excuses didn’t instill any confidence either.

He looked spectacular against hooker, but maybe that style was more suited for him. After eking out a decision against Zepeda and now postol, I don’t see him conquering either prograis or Taylor.

[Phill lynott]

Postol won the fight. Ramirez knew it. Both live to fight another day and most important, along the same path they were going before. That's what's important to Arum and TR. That's why you have the judges giving it to Ramirez. He is a stand up guy and you can see that bothered him. Good fight though for two fighters not at their best..