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  • Toffee
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    #31
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    fans will lose track of how many times Fury says stuff like this

    he will be calling AJ out... right up to his retirement

    that fight will never happen
    There's a lot of money in it... which makes it a possibility, but logically it only happens when both are prepared to cash in their titles in exchange for two fights.

    Fury talks about getting BT and Sky together in the UK. That won't be easy but, OK, maybe you can do it.

    Then you've got to get the US broadcasters together - and one of them is a subscription model, not a PPV seller!

    The percentages are the least of their problems. They can sort that bit out easily and still have too many hurdles to get over.

    In the meantime we get to hear Fury saying "they don't want it" over and over. Has anyone actually put a package together? Well then no-one is pursuing it.

    When all parties start talking, we'll know about it.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Toffee
      There's a lot of money in it... which makes it a possibility, but logically it only happens when both are prepared to cash in their titles in exchange for two fights.

      Fury talks about getting BT and Sky together in the UK. That won't be easy but, OK, maybe you can do it.

      Then you've got to get the US broadcasters together - and one of them is a subscription model, not a PPV seller!

      The percentages are the least of their problems. They can sort that bit out easily and still have too many hurdles to get over.

      In the meantime we get to hear Fury saying "they don't want it" over and over. Has anyone actually put a package together? Well then no-one is pursuing it.

      When all parties start talking, we'll know about it.
      They've already agreed to a 50/50 split, its about location and mandatory impediments. Saudi Arabia, Australia, Vegas are the front runners.

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      • Vinnykin
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        #33
        Originally posted by Jkp
        Joshua will always have a Mando to clear, as he has 3 or 4 belts with Mandos attached, and only fights once or twice a year. In 12 months he will have a whole new set of Mandos.

        Thats a poor excuse for him to dodge fights.
        I am honestly NOT making excuses for Joshua and his inactivity.

        My post-history has benn calling out Joshua's inativity for two years now.

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        • Jkp
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          #34
          Originally posted by hhh1200
          Fury is full of talk as usual, was offered a 3 fight deal before Wilder but turned it down. Looking forward to seeing Joshua beat him but I think he is going to fight a real negative fight vs Joshua and try to steal rounds in the last 30 sec like Ray Leonard did vs Hagler.
          2 of the top 3 have already fought each other twice. So its obvious who really wants to fight the best. They proved that making a fight is very easy when both sides really want it.

          Only thing AJ/Eddie have achieved in last 2 years is starting rumours about potential big fights while geting KO'd by cherry picks gone wrong.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Toffee
            There's a lot of money in it... which makes it a possibility, but logically it only happens when both are prepared to cash in their titles in exchange for two fights.

            Fury talks about getting BT and Sky together in the UK. That won't be easy but, OK, maybe you can do it.

            Then you've got to get the US broadcasters together - and one of them is a subscription model, not a PPV seller!

            The percentages are the least of their problems. They can sort that bit out easily and still have too many hurdles to get over.

            In the meantime we get to hear Fury saying "they don't want it" over and over. Has anyone actually put a package together? Well then no-one is pursuing it.

            When all parties start talking, we'll know about it.





            I believe that the team who ducked Wilder, will also duck Fury

            for the exact same reason... because, nothing has changed

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            • aboutfkntime
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              #36
              Originally posted by Jkp
              2 of the top 3 have already fought each other twice. So its obvious who really wants to fight the best. They proved that making a fight is very easy when both sides really want it.

              Only thing AJ/Eddie have achieved in last 2 years is starting rumours about potential big fights while geting KO'd by cherry picks gone wrong.


              exactly !

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              • CJFRENCH
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                #37
                Exactly

                Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                exactly !
                Exactly and AJ had to wait while the two of the top three fought each other twice.....and still has to wait while they have their third fight. He cannot fight them while they are fighting each other

                WBC belt aside AJ still went and won all the other belts with fewer fights in. Not bad for a stiff slow chinny robot. Now Fury has no interest in the third fight with Wilder, Wilder due to his image has to go ahead as he wants revenge, but does not really want it either.

                Yes so Fury can mouth off all he wants but he has signed for a third fight with Wilder, that or he may still have to defend the WBC against a mandatory. He is chasing the big fights and money only. If I was AJ i would let Fury wait and just carry on with my own mando's, Fury's going to have to pay Wilder off or drop the WBC...but no one wants Wilder Fury 3 unless they can have a big crowd....yes Fury wants AJ and will call him out and say he has no balls but at the same time he is not willing to risk fighting anyone else for fear of losing....

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                • Toffee
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by LoadedWraps
                  They've already agreed to a 50/50 split, its about location and mandatory impediments. Saudi Arabia, Australia, Vegas are the front runners.
                  They're the easy bits

                  50/50 is obvious, location will be a case of looking at the offers that come in and where they can have a gate.

                  Mandatories can be pushed back for a unification with agreement.

                  None of the above is simple but can be sorted.

                  But then TV remains a problem.

                  Sky/BT. ESPN/DAZN. The US side is a headfk to figure out. How do you share between a PPV and a subscription channel?

                  We've had joint PPVs before, I can't imagine we've ever had one fight with 2 joint network agreements in two countries, and a deal between a subscription channel and a network that does PPVs.

                  Calling each other out doesn't really do anything to fix those problems.

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                  • The plunger man
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by hhh1200
                    Fury is full of talk as usual, was offered a 3 fight deal before Wilder but turned it down. Looking forward to seeing Joshua beat him but I think he is going to fight a real negative fight vs Joshua and try to steal rounds in the last 30 sec like Ray Leonard did vs Hagler.
                    I suggest you watch rounds 1,2,3,4,10,11 to see Leonard clearly win those rounds and not just steal them lol...fury is not Leonard’s level of boxing and talent and fury won’t be able to do that because Joshua will be on him constantly.
                    Go watch the leoanrd hagler and re-evaluate what actually happened. Lol

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                    • aboutfkntime
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by CJFRENCH
                      Exactly and AJ had to wait while the two of the top three fought each other twice.....and still has to wait while they have their third fight. He cannot fight them while they are fighting each other

                      WBC belt aside AJ still went and won all the other belts with fewer fights in. Not bad for a stiff slow chinny robot. Now Fury has no interest in the third fight with Wilder, Wilder due to his image has to go ahead as he wants revenge, but does not really want it either.

                      Yes so Fury can mouth off all he wants but he has signed for a third fight with Wilder, that or he may still have to defend the WBC against a mandatory. He is chasing the big fights and money only. If I was AJ i would let Fury wait and just carry on with my own mando's, Fury's going to have to pay Wilder off or drop the WBC...but no one wants Wilder Fury 3 unless they can have a big crowd....yes Fury wants AJ and will call him out and say he has no balls but at the same time he is not willing to risk fighting anyone else for fear of losing....



                      making a fight is very easy when both sides really want it

                      some fans spend a LOT of time making silly excuses

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