Comments Thread For: Povetkin: I Look Forward To Fighting Fury, But I'm Focused on Whyte Rematch

[nacho daddy]

Pov should insist the fight take place in Russia rather then the corrupt rotten Great Sh itain

[VislorTurlough]

There are more stories on punch drunk PED cheat mediocrity Whyte now that before Povetkin ****d him. Is Eddie bankrolling this?

[MANNY67]

I know POV is older now but I think what separates world class fighters like POV have a lot of know how and always find it way and for me personally I don’t think Dillian is world class

[LoadedWraps]

It always gets trotted out that rematches usually go the same way... but I think it's slightly more complicated than that.

In recent history if the guy showed himself to be the better fighter then he typically does it again. Styles make fights. Some fighters are just kryptonite to others.

If it came down to a big punch landing then there's every chance it can be overturned in the rematch.

Looking recently at some rematches..

Fury was better in the first. Made it more clear in the second.
Joshua got caught with a big shot (though the end was dragged out); was a big favourite to avenge and did.
Lewis got caught with big shots by Rahman and McCall; was a big favourite to avenge and did so emphatically (twice)
Holyfield was better than Tyson in the first and was showing it again in the rematch.
Lewis deserved the first v Holyfield, got the second.
Bowe v Golota was identical second time around and a bit of a basket case.

Bowe v Holyfield is the only real outlier. It switched in the rematch after Bowe got the first win, but that was so close that you couldn't really pick one style as being better.

All the others showed that, while stoppages might be more definitive, they don't necessarily prove the better boxer. And if someone proves they are the better boxer, they'll typically show it again.

Not to take any legitimacy away from a flash stoppage, of course. All wins are equal, it's just that some are a better indicator for a rematch.

History doesn't say Povetkin necessarily does it again. Based on the way the fight went, Whyte will be a deserved favourite.

The fact that you consider it a "flash KO" tells us all we need to know.

A flash KO isn't even a thing. It's called a flash knockdown.

[Toffee]

The fact that you consider it a "flash KO" tells us all we need to know.

A flash KO isn't even a thing. It's called a flash knockdown.

I actually said flash stoppage. Which I'm sure you won't like either.

What I'm doing is using English words in an appropriate context.

'Flash' typically means instant, which is why it got associated with a quick knockdown. Boxing commentators didn't invent the word 'flash'. In this context I'm taking about the punch out of nowhere that gets all the NSB boys hard, but I'm saying isn't the best indicator for a rematch.

Sometimes you have to use different phrases if you want to convey an opinion that is different from the three or so cliches that you lot are capable of repeating.

[LoadedWraps]

I actually said flash stoppage. Which I'm sure you won't like either.

What I'm doing is using English words in an appropriate context.

'Flash' typically means instant, which is why it got associated with a quick knockdown. Boxing commentators didn't invent the word 'flash'. In this context I'm taking about the punch out of nowhere that gets all the NSB boys hard, but I'm saying isn't the best indicator for a rematch.

Sometimes you have to use different phrases if you want to convey an opinion that is different from the three or so cliches that you lot are capable of repeating.

Nah, it's more like you trying to sound knowledgeable and looking silly. Flash knockdown is a thing in boxing. There is no flash KO.

A flash knockdown is when you get caught by a good shot, often off balance, and the force knocks you down but you aren't actually hurt and you spring back up and can continue as if you never fell. The early knockdowns in the JMM/Pac trilogy are great examples.

A flash KO is impossible because you are out, or you aren't. Whether a KO is immediate or a result of accumulation doesn't make it flash, it's the "I was only briefly out of it" that makes a knockdown flash. Whyte was out before he hit the canvas and needed attention to recover.

[Toffee]

Nah, it's more like you trying to sound knowledgeable and looking silly. Flash knockdown is a thing in boxing. There is no flash KO.

A flash knockdown is when you get caught by a good shot, often off balance, and the force knocks you down but you aren't actually hurt and you spring back up and can continue as if you never fell. The early knockdowns in the JMM/Pac trilogy are great examples.

A flash KO is impossible because you are out, or you aren't. Whether a KO is immediate or a result of accumulation doesn't make it flash, it's the "I was only briefly out of it" that makes a knockdown flash. Whyte was out before he hit the canvas and needed attention to recover.

I'd happily look less knowledgeable...

...but you're confused as to what the 'flash' in 'flash knockdown' means.

'Flash' has never meant something that happened but didn't give you any consequences. There isn't a single use of the word that has ever meant that. It means exactly what you already know it means. And did before you started this petty debate.

In the context of a flash knockdown it just means it was a quick knockdown out of nowhere. Just a knockdown, nothing more.

It's an English word. Used for it's meaning. Nothing more complicated than that.

[Oshio]

I'd be very surprised for this to happen..

By the time Fury an AJ have finished, Pov will be well out of the equation imo. It'll be at least 2 years time and Povetkin would have to be top dog of the rest by then. Just can't see it happening unless the Fury/AJ doesn't got ahead..

It can happen. WBC has fixed February as the mando date for his champ at HW; there's no way Fury and Joshua can with such short notice