If Canelo MISSED the scale like Benavidez, would he get a pass also?

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  • Thuglife Nelo
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    #31
    Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
    He failed to make weight twice. The first time for Hatton, unable to make 150 and weight was raised to 152 (came in at 151.5 at the weigh-in). Against Angulo he knew ahead of time and weight was raised from 154-155 before he stepped on the scale.
    Behind the scenes, you should know this, a fight could be in jeopardy should a fighter not be able to perform. Why do you think Canelo vs Lemieux hasn’t happened? David would cause problems for the whole promotion if he was sent to a hospital again. Remember Akawwy was replaced for Lemieux in the Ryder fight.

    Point is, COMMON SENSE, Showtime PPV Canelo Alvarez CANNOT HAVE A REPLACEMENT! Hence PPV!

    And you guys are missing the point. Hatton had already been over the 150 scale before in fights. Lol. It’s not supposed to be that Hatton would’ve PREFERRED 147. The AVERAGE hydration across the board is 10lbs. 147+10 is 157. The title fight for Hatton was perfect.

    Furthermore, 168lbs is the limit for Super Middleweight. 150 or 152 isn’t the limit for Super Welterweight. If you want to be consistent you would have to find a fight that Canelo was over 3lbs OVER THE LIMIT.

    Like I said, this isn’t a case of Figueroa Jr. vs DeMarco or Quigg vs Valdez.

    You guys should know this... boxing elementary bruh

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    • Butt stuff
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      #32
      Originally posted by Turpin Kru
      Oh boy, context much? Ángulo wasn’t a title fight nor was Lara’s. And many “fans” don’t know that Angulo, Lara, and Kirkland had WAY MORE fights above 155+ before Canelo even stepped at that narrative. You realize 1lb of more water is welcomed BY ANY BOXER leading to the scale! That’s an advantage!

      Besides the real politics is that Showtime almost cancelled the fight. The difference is that you canT do that with Canelo’s draw power because of the sales in advance. Nowadays we see a bunch of fighters being replaced last minute...

      Showtime accidentally showed Angulo in the “All Access” series of Angulo sleeping around in the venue before the weigh ins. He was weighed deprived, and again, look at Angulo’s weights before the Canelo fight. Even in the post interviews of Angulo talking about the fight he cries about the weight cut. So tell me, would Angulo have performed better at 154? Lol. No! The show must go on! Ángulo never fought at those weights again! Canelo should be thanked for the 155 and gave Angulo a nice payday.

      You’re welcome for the knowledge.
      Mate what’s with the essay You asked about the weight, I stated precedent, and now you move the goal posts so that it has to be a world title fight.

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      • Butt stuff
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        #33
        Originally posted by Turpin Kru
        Behind the scenes, you should know this, a fight could be in jeopardy should a fighter not be able to perform. Why do you think Canelo vs Lemieux hasn’t happened? David would cause problems for the whole promotion if he was sent to a hospital again. Remember Akawwy was replaced for Lemieux in the Ryder fight.

        Point is, COMMON SENSE, Showtime PPV Canelo Alvarez CANNOT HAVE A REPLACEMENT! Hence PPV!

        And you guys are missing the point. Hatton had already been over the 150 scale before in fights. Lol. It’s not supposed to be that Hatton would’ve PREFERRED 147. The AVERAGE hydration across the board is 10lbs. 147+10 is 157. The title fight for Hatton was perfect.

        Furthermore, 168lbs is the limit for Super Middleweight. 150 or 152 isn’t the limit for Super Welterweight. If you want to be consistent you would have to find a fight that Canelo was over 3lbs OVER THE LIMIT.

        Like I said, this isn’t a case of Figueroa Jr. vs DeMarco or Quigg vs Valdez.

        You guys should know this... boxing elementary bruh
        The mental gymnastics going on here is just uncanny.

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        • Thuglife Nelo
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          #34
          Originally posted by Butt stuff
          Mate what’s with the essay You asked about the weight, I stated precedent, and now you move the goal posts so that it has to be a world title fight.
          I’m giving you facts. I don’t need to move any goal posts. There are only rings.

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          • Thuglife Nelo
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            #35
            Originally posted by Butt stuff
            The mental gymnastics going on here is just uncanny.
            10 yard lines... 100 meter dash...a weight limit. Not rocket science or “gymnastics.” Should be self explanatory to you.

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            • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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              #36
              Originally posted by Turpin Kru
              Behind the scenes, you should know this, a fight could be in jeopardy should a fighter not be able to perform. Why do you think Canelo vs Lemieux hasn’t happened? David would cause problems for the whole promotion if he was sent to a hospital again. Remember Akawwy was replaced for Lemieux in the Ryder fight.

              Point is, COMMON SENSE, Showtime PPV Canelo Alvarez CANNOT HAVE A REPLACEMENT! Hence PPV!

              And you guys are missing the point. Hatton had already been over the 150 scale before in fights. Lol. It’s not supposed to be that Hatton would’ve PREFERRED 147. The AVERAGE hydration across the board is 10lbs. 147+10 is 157. The title fight for Hatton was perfect.

              Furthermore, 168lbs is the limit for Super Middleweight. 150 or 152 isn’t the limit for Super Welterweight. If you want to be consistent you would have to find a fight that Canelo was over 3lbs OVER THE LIMIT.

              Like I said, this isn’t a case of Figueroa Jr. vs DeMarco or Quigg vs Valdez.

              You guys should know this... boxing elementary bruh
              The fight with Hatton was contracted for 150. They pulled Hatton up from welterweight to Canelo at 150 for the vacant WBC 154-pound title, so no it couldn't be at 147.

              Ricky Hatton wanted to pull his brother out after Canelo was 1.5 over and refused to make any further attempts get down to 150.

              They paid Matthew Hatton a very handsome sum to stay in the fight.

              Canelo vs. Lemiuex was presented to DAZN last year, and this year, and rejected both times.

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              • Bunch Pag
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                #37
                Originally posted by Butt stuff
                I stated precedent, and now you move the goal posts so that it has to be a world title fight.
                I see you've ran into Turpin..

                Moving goalposts is his bidness...

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                  #38
                  Don't bother arguing with a man who can never admit he's wrong. It should be alarming that he's the only one who can "see behind the curtains," despite him being a spectator. Anyone who's retort to someone calling them out on their **** is something along the lines of "I only give facts" is no one worth debating.

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                  • Butt stuff
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Bunch Pag
                    I see you've ran into Turpin..

                    Moving goalposts is his bidness...
                    He’s a fruity kind of dude.

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                    • Thuglife Nelo
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                      The fight with Hatton was contracted for 150. They pulled Hatton up from welterweight to Canelo at 150 for the vacant WBC 154-pound title, so no it couldn't be at 147.
                      The subtext is apparent... they “pulled.” I guess Mikey was “pulled” from simultaneous 135-140 straps to attempt a 147 belt, and the kid wasn’t stopped from a Texan whom can compete at 154 easily. Duran was “pulled” from Lightweight to Middleweight?

                      This is boxing. Stop being soft. We don’t need “on paper” representations for how pros spar all the time with guys bigger than them. The fact that you don’t acknowledge what happens in sparring on a daily basis with guys of different sizes like “GGG spars Cruiserweights” or your Avatar rocking a Floyd pic for a guy who fought a 135lb pounder in Marquez to change it from 144-146 “last minute” as you say... proves why industry has bias and suspect appearances!

                      Mexican Bidness!! Keep the double standards real. Be 100 all the way!

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