Comments Thread For: WBC Prez: No Date Or Time Limitation At This Moment For Heavyweight Mandatory

[thack]

Whyte's the idiot. He could have gotten his title shot years ago but he only wanted it on his own terms. Both the WBC and Deontay Wilder threw him lifelines which he rejected.

Yep! Along with refusing £4 Mill to face Joshua because Fury had been offered more for a fight! Joshua instead fought Ruiz and we all know what happened there.......opportunity missed , as you put it Whytes the idiot who i'm sure is now parrot.

[VislorTurlough]

Whyte should be mandated to face Rivas and Parker without PEDs

[removed]

The best news I’ve heard for ages.

Fury vs Joshua is the best fight in boxing. Shyte can go back to the end of the queue.

[champion4ever]

Yep! Along with refusing £4 Mill to face Joshua because Fury had been offered more for a fight! Joshua instead fought Ruiz and we all know what happened there.......opportunity missed , as you put it Whytes the idiot who i'm sure is now parrot.

Thanks for reminding me of that. It's another offer he rejected. Joshua offered him a second chance at his title as well and he turned that one down too. I just don't understand this kid or Matchroom Sport for that matter. They cherrypicked two huge underdogs for their fighters and lost.

[Toffee]

You know the second fight was a rematch right ? Again in the rules a rematch can be made a mandatory.

Breazeale was not made to fight Whyte as an elimination bout because he already had one with Molina after Stiverne pulled out to fight Wilder .

Povetkin gets the mandatory by defeating anyone who holds the position what are you talking about ? Ha

Answering your paragraphs in order..

1). They ordered a direct rematch and Fury pulled out of it. So, no the second contest wasn't a direct rematch. Of course they could have allowed an intervening contest but that's not what happened. Fury fought twice more. The rematch rule doesn't go on indefinitely... they'd already ordered it and been ignored.

2). You don't recall Breazeale and Whyte being ordered to agree terms on an Elimination match? Well, it happened. You must have missed it. Wilder chose Breazeale... then they made it a mandatory. Whyte got left in the cold - hence legal proceedings starting against the WBC.

3). Povetkin absolutely does not get the mandatory by beating Whyte. It doesn't work that way and they've moved to confirm that immediately.

[REDEEMER]

Answering your paragraphs in order..

1). They ordered a direct rematch and Fury pulled out of it. So, no the second contest wasn't a direct rematch. Of course they could have allowed an intervening contest but that's not what happened. Fury fought twice more. The rematch rule doesn't go on indefinitely... they'd already ordered it and been ignored.

2). You don't recall Breazeale and Whyte being ordered to agree terms on an Elimination match? Well, it happened. You must have missed it. Wilder chose Breazeale... then they made it a mandatory. Whyte got left in the cold - hence legal proceedings starting against the WBC.

3). Povetkin absolutely does not get the mandatory by beating Whyte. It doesn't work that way and they've moved to confirm that immediately.

The first fight was a draw so no, they renegotiated the contract with no time stamp of the order in which they fight so it was under the discrepancy of the fighters .

Breazeale was offered to fight Whyte but it was a voluntary fight if it had been officially ordered then it would have happened wouldn’t it ? Breazeale declined with no agreement on money and felt the risk reward was not justified.

Everyone knows Povetkin is the mandatory now you can just go back to the fight and see afterwards and see they ask him if he is going to persue the Fury vs Wilder in that spot. I’m not sure why this is diffIcult to understand ? Anyone who defeats a mandatory challenger inherits the position it’s literally in the rules .

[kafkod]

Dillian, should have taken a bum fight like Tyson Fury does when he have a major fight on the horizon. Fury is the master of bum fights. He loves them. He does them all the time. Fury would have not fought one of the top 10 contenders in the world as a tuneup fight.

Now one thousand days of Whyte being the WBC's number one contender has been shot straight to Hell thanks to that uppercut by Sasha Povetkin. Matchroom and Eddie Hearn sure knows how to match make don't they?

Yeah, they keep matching their top fighters against genuine opponents who have a chance of beating them. What year do they think we're living in now ... 1984? Smh.

[Toffee]

The first fight was a draw so no, they renegotiated the contract with no time stamp of the order in which they fight so it was under the discrepancy of the fighters .

Breazeale was offered to fight Whyte but it was a voluntary fight if it had been officially ordered then it would have happened wouldn’t it ? Breazeale declined with no agreement on money and felt the risk reward was not justified.

Everyone knows Povetkin is the mandatory now you can just go back to the fight and see afterwards and see they ask him if he is going to persue the Fury vs Wilder in that spot. I’m not sure why this is diffIcult to understand ? Anyone who defeats a mandatory challenger inherits the position it’s literally in the rules .

So you reckon the WBC ordered a direct rematch, but then agreed to delay it and call it a mandatory later. Then allowed two more fights, called Breazeale a mandatory, then declared Whyte their mandatory... and all while knowing they actually had Fury as mandatory a bit down the line. C'mon, you can't possibly believe that! It's nonsense. They cancelled the direct rematch because Fury pulled out - they've formally confirmed that.

Breazeale v Whyte wasn't voluntary. It was ordered by the WBC for the interim title and to 'attend to the mandatory status of the division' as they were still trying to organise the Wilder Fury direct rematch they had ordered.

Both of those issues are covered in the WBC's ruling. They are facts.
https://www.***************.net/2019...tory-appeal-2/
Edit - blocked link - try this one https://www.maxboxing.com/news/sub-l...-championship-

As for your last point. It's not in the rules that beating a mandatory gets you the mandatory spot. To be named mandatory, you have to be named mandatory.

Suleiman has confirmed this very quickly after the fight.

https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-prez...datory--151199

[kafkod]

Whyte's the idiot. He could have gotten his title shot years ago but he only wanted it on his own terms. Both the WBC and Deontay Wilder threw him lifelines which he rejected.

Yeah right .. by turning down an offer for Ortiz to fight Whyte in the UK as a Sky PPV headliner, then sending a counter offer for the same fight at a bingo hall in Alabama on Wilder's undercard, as a final eliminator for the position of " WBC second mandatory challenger" (aka, not the WBC mandatory challenger}

[REDEEMER]

So you reckon the WBC ordered a direct rematch, but then agreed to delay it and call it a mandatory later. Then allowed two more fights, called Breazeale a mandatory, then declared Whyte their mandatory... and all while knowing they actually had Fury as mandatory a bit down the line. C'mon, you can't possibly believe that! It's nonsense. They cancelled the direct rematch because Fury pulled out - they've formally confirmed that.

Breazeale v Whyte wasn't voluntary. It was ordered by the WBC for the interim title and to 'attend to the mandatory status of the division' as they were still trying to organise the Wilder Fury direct rematch they had ordered.

Both of those issues are covered in the WBC's ruling. They are facts.
https://www.***************.net/2019...tory-appeal-2/
Edit - blocked link - try this one https://www.maxboxing.com/news/sub-l...-championship-

As for your last point. It's not in the rules that beating a mandatory gets you the mandatory spot. To be named mandatory, you have to be named mandatory.

Suleiman has confirmed this very quickly after the fight.

https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-prez...datory--151199

https://www.iwradio.co.uk/news/sport...datory-status/



Povetkin became the new WBC mandatory challenger after claiming the WBC 'interim' and 'Diamond' belts yes it is in the rules . The link above shows it but I’m sure you will find a way to reject it. The link you provided is about limitations on the mandatory date not who owns it . The link you posted actually shows my point ,it states the Whyte vs Fury one is now not happening because the mandatory which Povetkin won is now reset .

The rest of your post is a lot of jargon . A draw in rematch clauses opts out any contract obligations. Breazeale won his mandatory against Molina ,anything specific afterwards is not even relevant ,Fury would have skipped him over bc of the rematch clauses he had with Wilder regardless .