Comments Thread For: Fury: Hearn Was Trying To Protect Joshua By Putting Whyte in The Way

[skinny kenny]

Whyte was Wilder's #1 mandatory for the only belt Wilder had and Wilder avoided Whyte for years. That's true. Wilder also turned down all the belts and more money than he has made in his lifetime to avoid AJ. Also true. People can deny it if they so choose but that doesn't change the hard facts.

As for dignity and honor in the same sentance as "I want to kill a man in the ring" is an insult to intellect. Wilder has zero dignity and absolutely no honor at all, nada, zip as in none. The WBC should have given the belt to the blinking outfit that Wilder claims beat him in the ring.

number one and mandatory are not the same thing and whyte and hearn knew that. they wanted the wbc silver and more time and flexibllity. whyte was not mando until after rivas fight and that had a 2 month b sample investigation hold. breazelle offered to fight whyte for the mando spot but hearn and whyte turned that down.
wilder offered a cut in front voluntary if whyte fought ortiz and that offer was backed by the wbc.
but instead whyte and hearn pretended to be in prison counting days

[VislorTurlough]

The heavyweight champion of the world is correct. Eddie’s gambit has failed again. And soon both Matchroom & DAZN will be liquidated

[skinny kenny]

The point I was trying to make was that AJ is the cash cow of the division. Keep in mind, AJ was worth 250 million before the 85 million dollar pay day. AJ could easily fight Povetkin or Whyte next and still make a guaranteed 8- 10 million.

dude he did not get 85 million. that was whole site fee, 85 million. that was to make up for the gate and possible usa ppv. (75-80 usa dollars a ppv, which they could have done)
aj didn't get the whole site fee himself. maybe 1/3 at most. then he got his usual percentage of sky ppv (30 usa dollars a pop) which did very,very well. he got like 50-55 million. the number that i keep seeing is 53 million in uk sources. (which is great, huge) aj got around 28-30 for ruiz 1. then he got 4 in a row of around 20 before that.
fury is doing fine on a run of 12, 15,15, then 35 mil
wilder is also okay at 5, 15, 18, 20 then 35 mil
all 3 guys are doing great but aj got the money going first in 2017 with the klitschko fight

[deathofaclown]

So both teams just agreed in principle then? They don’t really want to go through with it, it was all PR from both yeah?

Well Hearn and sky made a big song and dance about it but Arum said it’s nothing worth a huge news story and a 30 minute conversation about a basic split

Sky put that news out to take the attention away from Joshua’s racist rant, that’s all it was.

Also I still feel there is a lot of roadblocks in the way of that fight, such as broadcasting. Are BT and sky go on to be willing to work together? Because neither is letting the only pay-per-view Cashcow go to the other side. Then we have to remember Fury has a contract with ESPN, is Hearn going to let Joshua go to ESPN and have no DAZN involvement? because their platforms arent compatible in the way they price things for a co PPV

So it’s one thing agreeing in principle the split and how many fights they will do, but that is the most simple thing to sort out. all the other stuff is more difficult when you’re actually contracted to broadcasters. Those things can either genuine problems.....or they can be a convenient problem if you don’t want a fight.

Either way, making that fight has so many obstacles.

[Gluebag]

Aj is the best of the heavyweighrs tyson fury is all mouth aj in 4

[Ray*]

Well Hearn and sky made a big song and dance about it but Arum said it’s nothing worth a huge news story and a 30 minute conversation about a basic split
.

Fury himself came out and made a video about it. So I don’t think this was one sided. It depends on who you like and hate when it comes to this things. I can call things objective even when I don’t like one side. I could see which side you are leaning towards, so cannot take you serious when it comes to this subject, you obviously not objective about this. When I know my judgement is impaired in certain conversations then I tend to remove myself from it, am not emotional invested in this, just calling it like I see it from each side.

[Ray*]

Aj is the best of the heavyweighrs tyson fury is all mouth aj in 4

Ok causal 😂

[Angeljuice]

Utter crap. Joshua wants the fight more than Fury does.

Nobody was hiding, Whyte was mandatory. Even a ***** should have enough intelligence to understand that.

[Angeljuice]

The heavyweight champion of the world is correct. Eddie’s gambit has failed again. And soon both Matchroom & DAZN will be liquidated

You haven't got a clue what you are talking about.
Seriously, everything you said is wrong.

[Silver Spear]

Yeah, all very valid and can’t say you are wrong.

Only thing I would ask is; ‘ A champion fighting his challengers or a champion fighting another champion to unify the division?’ - why isn’t Joshua #1 then?

Obviously I want Joshua v Fury. The thing I can’t get onboard with is why Fury is lauded when all he did was beat a Champion that he should have. He hasn’t defended a belt. Why does he deserve his status? Especially with his past boxing related offences. Baffles me how he has so many loyal fans who are prepared to overlook his faults but spotlight those of others.

Agreed. I do not blindly follow a fighter except for maybe Vasyl but that is only a maybe. My only argument for putting Fury on #1 was the way he won his titles and how he has handled the top HW in the division. He made Klitschko look like a chump in his own back yard. He took the hardest hitter in boxing best shots and still out boxed him and demolished him in the rematch.

AJ fought a really tough fight against Klitschko, got knocked down and looked really tired and gassed. Klitschko was coming off a semi retirement and had not fought in almost 2 years. Then AJ goes and gets knocked out by a relative nobody in the casuals eyes who took the fight on a months or so notice. Yes he won the rematch in the exact way I would have expected him to do so and dominated but he showed that he is still one dimensional in his fights. He needs to learn how to do what he did against Ruiz and do what he had done to almost every other oppoennt until then. Box but bring the power. Like Mike Tyson used to do early on. Fury basically did that in the rematch he boxed and brought the power (although I will be the first to admit that it was a bit dirty but that can be argued another day).

I hold AJ as #2 behind Fury only because Fury has more pro's and less con's compared to AJ. I liked Aj a lot earlier in his career but he only recently improved on what I thought would be his biggest downfall. Hopefully he continues to grow and we get a tremendous fight with him and Fury.