Comments Thread For: Katie Taylor-Delfine Persoon Rematch - CompuBox Punch Stats

[1hourRun]

These Compubox stats make Katie Taylor look guilty of a robbery. How does the technical 'Slick' boxer get out-jabbed by the slugger?

Jabs landed/thrown :

R.1 Delfine Persoon 2/10 | Katie Taylor 2/13
R.2 Delfine Persoon 4/22 | Katie Taylor 3/19
R.3 Delfine Persoon 4/18 | Katie Taylor 1/12
R.4 Delfine Persoon 3/23 | Katie Taylor 2/12
R.5 Delfine Persoon 2/17 | Katie Taylor 0/05
R.6 Delfine Persoon 5/31 | Katie Taylor 0/06
R.7 Delfine Persoon 1/28 | Katie Taylor 1/11
R.8 Delfine Persoon 4/25 | Katie Taylor 1/10
R.9 Delfine Persoon 3/23 | Katie Taylor 0/9
R.10 Delfine Persoon 2/35 | Katie Taylor 0/11

Were the stats this bad for Katie Taylor in the first fight?

[Squared.Circle]

I wouldn't have said it was ineffective watching the fight though, clearly forced Taylor to be defensive and was wearing her down. 3 minute rounds would have been interesting to see if she tired or could break Taylor.


Win, lose or draw would have been fair for both in this fight.

If Taylor was trapped against the ropes with her hands held high and doing nothing but blocking punches, then yea, I'd say that the aggression was effective. Persoon would have been nullifying her defence as well as her offence, but that wasn't the case. Her aggression (the whole point of aggression is to attack and land scoring blows) was mostly nullified by Taylor's defence, making it ineffective and giving Taylor more credit.

I had it 96–94 to Taylor, which I obviously thought was a **** on decision. However, as you said, it was close. There were rounds which could have gone either way because, unfortunately, most people somehow seem to think that scoring a fight is subjective lol taking that anomaly into consideration, 96–94 to Persoon or a draw wouldn't have been an issue for me. I was actually expecting the judges to score it a draw. But the 96–94 to Taylor is by no stretch of the imagination a robbery like some are crying about.

[Squared.Circle]

These Compubox stats make Katie Taylor look guilty of a robbery. How does the technical 'Slick' boxer get out-jabbed by the slugger?

Jabs landed/thrown :

R.1 Delfine Persoon 2/10 | Katie Taylor 2/13
R.2 Delfine Persoon 4/22 | Katie Taylor 3/19
R.3 Delfine Persoon 4/18 | Katie Taylor 1/12
R.4 Delfine Persoon 3/23 | Katie Taylor 2/12
R.5 Delfine Persoon 2/17 | Katie Taylor 0/05
R.6 Delfine Persoon 5/31 | Katie Taylor 0/06
R.7 Delfine Persoon 1/28 | Katie Taylor 1/11
R.8 Delfine Persoon 4/25 | Katie Taylor 1/10
R.9 Delfine Persoon 3/23 | Katie Taylor 0/9
R.10 Delfine Persoon 2/35 | Katie Taylor 0/11

Were the stats this bad for Katie Taylor in the first fight?

Look at this spaztard, cherry picking more than Deontay Wilder BAHA "out-jabbed"...do you even read the dimwitted nonsense you type? Look at the difference between jabs thrown, Persoon throwing upwards of 20 and 30, and landing 3, 4, and 5 (once)...27 out of 222 isn't something you want to be using as evidence for somebody winning LOL

This div hasn't even watched the fight (literally, he admitted it in another thread LOL), 1MinuteCum has been reading about it and making herself look like an absolute tít, as per usual. Do you ever watch any boxing at all? Or do you just sit around and read about it all the time? Those stats show that Taylor is indeed a slick fighter, making Persoon miss 195 jabs. You absolute div lol

[Jax teller]

If Taylor was trapped against the ropes with her hands held high and doing nothing but blocking punches, then yea, I'd say that the aggression was effective. Persoon would have been nullifying her defence as well as her offence, but that wasn't the case. Her aggression (the whole point of aggression is to attack and land scoring blows) was mostly nullified by Taylor's defence, making it ineffective and giving Taylor more credit.

I had it 96–94 to Taylor, which I obviously thought was a **** on decision. However, as you said, it was close. There were rounds which could have gone either way because, unfortunately, most people somehow seem to think that scoring a fight is subjective lol taking that anomaly into consideration, 96–94 to Persoon or a draw wouldn't have been an issue for me. I was actually expecting the judges to score it a draw. But the 96–94 to Taylor is by no stretch of the imagination a robbery like some are crying about.

No but people always cry robbery on a close fight.

My opinion was that Delfines aggression stopped Katie getting in a groove and kept her on the backfoot so althought Delfine wasn't scoring points with every punch effective, it was effective in suppressing Taylor who'd have won easy if the attack wasn't so relentless.

[Toffee]

I wouldn't have said it was ineffective watching the fight though, clearly forced Taylor to be defensive and was wearing her down. 3 minute rounds would have been interesting to see if she tired or could break Taylor.


Win, lose or draw would have been fair for both in this fight.

Boxing 20 minutes with 9 breaks Persoon doesn't have to make any decisions. She can just go hell for leather.

3 minute rounds and Taylor would win by a huge margin.

[Toffee]

These Compubox stats make Katie Taylor look guilty of a robbery. How does the technical 'Slick' boxer get out-jabbed by the slugger?

Jabs landed/thrown :

R.1 Delfine Persoon 2/10 | Katie Taylor 2/13
R.2 Delfine Persoon 4/22 | Katie Taylor 3/19
R.3 Delfine Persoon 4/18 | Katie Taylor 1/12
R.4 Delfine Persoon 3/23 | Katie Taylor 2/12
R.5 Delfine Persoon 2/17 | Katie Taylor 0/05
R.6 Delfine Persoon 5/31 | Katie Taylor 0/06
R.7 Delfine Persoon 1/28 | Katie Taylor 1/11
R.8 Delfine Persoon 4/25 | Katie Taylor 1/10
R.9 Delfine Persoon 3/23 | Katie Taylor 0/9
R.10 Delfine Persoon 2/35 | Katie Taylor 0/11

Were the stats this bad for Katie Taylor in the first fight?

Was Persoon ever at jabbing range?

You probably need to watch the fight to interpret the statistics.

[Squared.Circle]

No but people always cry robbery on a close fight.

My opinion was that Delfines aggression stopped Katie getting in a groove and kept her on the backfoot so althought Delfine wasn't scoring points with every punch effective, it was effective in suppressing Taylor who'd have won easy if the attack wasn't so relentless.

Yea that's a valid point but it only goes so far; Persoon did prevent Taylor from using aggression, which is why the fight was so close, but it was mostly wasted energy due to Taylor's defence. I think the deciding factor was the sheer amount of punches Taylor made Persoon completely miss. If Persoon landed as little as three or four more clean punches per round then I would have scored them to Persoon.

[1hourRun]

Was Persoon ever at jabbing range?

You probably need to watch the fight to interpret the statistics.

You mean to tell me that Katie Taylor wanted to be in the trenches with the Belgium war-machine Delfine Persoon all along? I think that Delfine Persoon's footwork and 'Ring-Generalship' is underappreciated ; Persoon cut the ring off at will and Katie's two left feet could not keep Persoon off of her to establish a more comfortable and effective range.

Katie Taylor's weapons were taken away and Taylor was handicapped, that is the reason why Taylor was not credited for a single jab in rounds 5-6-9-10.

[harry-greb]

I scored it 7-3 persoon with 2 or 3 swing rounds. I also had a few beers in my belly at that stage but I thought persoon was making the fight, forcing Katie back. Granted, she missed alot but she landed plenty and forced katie to fight her fight. The very definition of ring generalship.
But I'll definitely rewatch it and score it properly.
Delfine also fought 8 rounds with a broken nose. She's as hard as nails.
A good fight.

[Squared.Circle]

You mean to tell me that Katie Taylor wanted to be in the trenches with the Belgium war-machine Delfine Persoon all along? I think that Delfine Persoon's footwork and 'Ring-Generalship' is underappreciated ; Persoon cut the ring off at will and Katie's two left feet could not keep Persoon off of her to establish a more comfortable and effective range.

Katie Taylor's weapons were taken away and Taylor was handicapped, that is the reason why Taylor was not credited for a single jab in rounds 5-6-9-10.

You. Haven't. Watched. The. Fight. If you had, you'd know that Persoon wasn't cutting the ring off at all. Her success was catching Taylor going backwards in straight lines after she'd back off following a flurry of punches. Persoon was literally punching fresh air when Taylor was using lateral movement and even when she was directly in front of Persoon with her back against the ropes.

You're just proving you're an Eddie Hearn loving troll. Stop being embarrassing.