Comments Thread For: Whyte To Hearn: Can We Get Povetkin Rematch in December?

[Squared.Circle]

Not sure why anyone would be complaining about a lack of stoppage in the first Fury/Wilder fight unless they are upset that it denied Wilder a victory.

Also not sure why you'd use the Whyte knockout as a comparison. Povetkin's uppercut literally lifted Whyte off the ground.

Different fights, different fighter reactions and different referees. I've seen fighters completely unconscious and a ref still count to 10 before waving it off.

Reminded me alot of the first Groves/Froch fight. A fighter can be dropped hard and rise up to get the better of his opponent.

Exactly. Completely different circumstances, there's no comparison. Whyte tried to get back up after five seconds and he had that "Mummy, is it dinner time yet?" look on his face

[Guest]

Whyte was hitting Povetkin low the whole fight. No warning from the referee. Prediction, in the rematch, the referee stops the fight at the first sign of trouble for Povetkin.

I saw the low blows too and the announcers said nothing either. One was like just above his knees. At the end of one round I saw a look on Povetkin's face like WTF.

But he didn't complain about it.


And ultimately laid Whyte down like he was lazy.

[Fire4231]

For those that think Reiss should have stopped Wilder vs. Fury I...go watch the fight back, watch Fury win the rest of the round and have Wilder out on his feet. If you still think Fury was unable to continue, then you should switch to watching badminton because boxing clearly isn't for you lol

Na’ll **** bro explain the differences stop telling me what happened post knock out and clarify how the ref made the call to continue it. Especially on the back of the instant stoppage with the Whyte vs Povetkin fight. You can’t explain it you just justify it based on the results. Kudos to Fury fo finding the late count smelling salts... but what was the ref doing?

[Watcherw1]

fury is very enraged when we see him. those follow up shots after the knock down sent fury's eyes back, that damages a fighter. Ref should've called but hey, boxing is unique like that

[Kezzer]

Hope Povetkin drops joke interim thing and denies Hearn rematch. These immediate rematches are BS. Let the man have a homecoming fight in Russia when Covid clears

It was within the contract for a rematch. Eddie knows what he is doing and his A side also has these sort of deals, but Povetkin will be well paid for it so has no reason to complain!

[Squared.Circle]

Na’ll **** bro explain the differences stop telling me what happened post knock out and clarify how the ref made the call to continue it. Especially on the back of the instant stoppage with the Whyte vs Povetkin fight. You can’t explain it you just justify it based on the results. Kudos to Fury fo finding the late count smelling salts... but what was the ref doing?

Reiss explained his decision in an interview. He said that Fury's knee being up gave him the impression that Fury wasn't unconscious, when he stood over him Fury made eye contact. Now the knee being up obviously doesn't indicate consciousness, but direct eye contact obviously does.

Whyte was laid completely flat. His head almost hanging off the ring apron.

You can't discount what happened post-knockdown as that validates the decision; Fury was clearly able to continue, and more. Good call by Reiss. Whyte clearly wasn't able to continue. Good call by Lyson.

[Squared.Circle]

fury is very enraged when we see him. those follow up shots after the knock down sent fury's eyes back, that damages a fighter. Ref should've called but hey, boxing is unique like that

Hi Jack Reiss...how, oh, sorry, you're not Jack Reiss and you weren't in the ring with Fury to see where his eyes went

Reiss said in an interview that Fury made eye contact. Reiss is one of the best and most safety conscious referee's in the sport. If he saw Fury laid on his back with only the whites of his eyes visible he would have immediately called it off.

[Watcherw1]

jack reiss did say wilder won the fight though. his words

[Fire4231]

Reiss explained his decision in an interview. He said that Fury's knee being up gave him the impression that Fury wasn't unconscious, when he stood over him Fury made eye contact. Now the knee being up obviously doesn't indicate consciousness, but direct eye contact obviously does.

Whyte was laid completely flat. His head almost hanging off the ring apron.

You can't discount what happened post-knockdown as that validates the decision; Fury was clearly able to continue, and more. Good call by Reiss. Whyte clearly wasn't able to continue. Good call by Lyson.

So if you fall with your knee up that shows a level of consciousness beyond falling with your legs flat? The knee wasn’t moving. GTFOH with that BS Reiss.

Look at the clip Fury is gone. Then Reiss gets over Fury counting with his hands over his face. Another thing you don’t see all the time. So beyond the auditory stimulus of the count he is also flailing over his face frantically?

At the count of five Fury does eventually make very strong eye contact. At the count of six he starts to quickly rise.

But it doesn’t explain the time granted before. You seem like you have watched a lot of boxing. Are you telling me you believe there is fairness and rigidity around boxing stoppages? Is that what you “unbiased,” guys are doubling down on?

Feels like the guys on here start acting like boxing is the cleanest/ purest sport in the world when things play out in their favorite fighters direction. Let anything happen questionable when you don’t like the guy and it’s the dirtiest sport ever.

I am saying there simply could be a better job of level setting around stoppages. You can get concussed and get a ten count. However you can be standing and blocking most of a flurry and get a waive off and a hug. Then Tyson’s eye is hanging out the socket in the Wallin fight and we go the full distance? WTF is code to keeping fighters safe?

I am not sure why refs continue to get creative license on stoppages that tend to vary from fight to fight depending on the fighter name and outcome.

Ultimately fighter safety should be the most important thing. It is 2020 and if someone is concussed in a Football game it would look very strange to wake him up and tell him to get back into the next play.

Say what you want about my intentions. But we need to clean up this stuff that makes boxing a turnoff for real sports fans. You would think the purest on these sites would see it the same way?

[Fire4231]

Not sure why anyone would be complaining about a lack of stoppage in the first Fury/Wilder fight unless they are upset that it denied Wilder a victory.

Also not sure why you'd use the Whyte knockout as a comparison. Povetkin's uppercut literally lifted Whyte off the ground.

Different fights, different fighter reactions and different referees. I've seen fighters completely unconscious and a ref still count to 10 before waving it off.

Reminded me alot of the first Groves/Froch fight. A fighter can be dropped hard and rise up to get the better of his opponent.

Well if that is what we are doing... make the 10 count mandatory unless the corner throws in the towel.

But concussed is still concussed. And if this consistent inconsistency is purely benign, I would love to see how many times the questionable stoppage benefits the larger name or the home town favorite.