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  • #11
    I thought she win handily, as do many other people and pundits. I wonder if she watches it back she'll think she won quite comfortably. May be concussed from Katie Taylor's headbutts.

    I thought Taylor was poor. Running, ducking, being hit flush in the face and landing one fast combo per round is not her being like Mayweather. One thing is clear, Serrano needs to KO her.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Toffee View Post
      I'm the same. Most women's sport is just a lesser version of the same men's sport. But in boxing, it's just another division.

      Where I disagree is I thought the Taylor Persoon fight was crap. Persoon made it a wrestling match and the far superior boxer was lucky to escape with her belts. On another day those judges reward basic effort and it will be down to the 2 minute rounds that allow the women to go full tilt for 20 minutes with 9 breaks.
      What I like about women's boxing as opposed to women's football is the same purist concept like the mens. Person v person.Its why as you maybe aware Katie Taylor choose boxing over football despite being a very promising footballer eg played for Republic of Ireland youth .

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      • #13
        Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post
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        It breaks my heart to see Delfine Persoon putting her body and soul in these two legacy defining fights only to get robbed in the end. I nearly cried when I read the title of this thread, you deserved better Delfine Persoon.
        Nice comments and I agree completely.

        I was highly impressed with Persoons effort.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post
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          I ask the boxingscene a simple question : was Delfine Persoon given a fair chance to win a decision in the UK with all British judges, considering the controversial results of the first contest? How would the score look if all three judges were from Belgium? A simple question I ask.

          Below I note the names of these three English-criminals that decided Taylor vs. Persoon II.

          John Latham 94-96 | Victor Loughlin 93-98 | Mark Lyson 94-96

          Katie Taylor has officially become the most overrated and protected champion in the sport of boxing, worse than Vasily Lomachenko ; a complete fraud!

          It breaks my heart to see Delfine Persoon putting her body and soul in these two legacy defining fights only to get robbed in the end. I nearly cried when I read the title of this thread, you deserved better Delfine Persoon.
          Sounds like you didn’t actually see the fight then since you cried when you read about the result. So interesting. You’re so certain that Persoon got screwed by criminal judges yet you didn’t even see the fight. I thought Persoon got screwed in the first match, but agree that KT was the winner yesterday, I saw both live.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Nash out View Post
            I thought she win handily, as do many other people and pundits. I wonder if she watches it back she'll think she won quite comfortably. May be concussed from Katie Taylor's headbutts.

            I thought Taylor was poor. Running, ducking, being hit flush in the face and landing one fast combo per round is not her being like Mayweather. One thing is clear, Serrano needs to KO her.

            Exactly. I found it hard to give katie a single round. Persoon backed he up the whole fight and katie didn't counterpunch very well. Call it like it is -- a robbery.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post
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              I ask the boxingscene a simple question : was Delfine Persoon given a fair chance to win a decision in the UK with all British judges, considering the controversial results of the first contest? How would the score look if all three judges were from Belgium? A simple question I ask.

              Below I note the names of these three English-criminals that decided Taylor vs. Persoon II.

              John Latham 94-96 | Victor Loughlin 93-98 | Mark Lyson 94-96

              Katie Taylor has officially become the most overrated and protected champion in the sport of boxing, worse than Vasily Lomachenko ; a complete fraud!

              It breaks my heart to see Delfine Persoon putting her body and soul in these two legacy defining fights only to get robbed in the end. I nearly cried when I read the title of this thread, you deserved better Delfine Persoon.
              And that fully explains every comment you post on this forum...you're an actual man bítch

              You post that video like it proves a point. What it really shows is Persoon landing about 10 out of 40+ punches. And even at that, it was the last round and one her most successful throughout the fight lol post ones from the first few rounds where Persoon hardly landed a punch while Taylor countered with clean shots. Or ones from the mid-rounds where Persoon, again, was throwing 20 punches to land 4 or 5 (because Taylor was slipping, sliding, blocking and parrying) while Taylor was landing the cleaner shots.

              Scoring a fight is not subjective. Ineffective aggression (not landing punches because the opponent's defence, in one way or another, is nullifying those attacks) is not a scoring criteria. Effective defence (blocking, parrying and making your opponent miss) is a scoring criteria. You probably think De La Hoya beat Mayweather for shít sake

              A robbery is something like Wilder vs. Fury one, where Fury was the clear winner, without a doubt, yet Wilder gets gifted a draw. A close fight that can be scored by one or two points either way, or a draw, is not a robbery.

              You need to put aside your sensitive wiccle emotions when you comment. They literally make you look like the biggest and most deluded ninny-pants hater on the entire forum it's embarrassing.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by NachoMan View Post
                Sounds like you didn’t actually see the fight then since you cried when you read about the result. So interesting. You’re so certain that Persoon got screwed by criminal judges yet you didn’t even see the fight. I thought Persoon got screwed in the first match, but agree that KT was the winner yesterday, I saw both live.
                It was a close fight that could have gone either way by one or two points or even a draw. But this time around I think they got the right decision. Those, like 1MinuteCum, that are crying about a robbery are the ones that think Wilder completely outboxed Fury in the first fight their comments are driven by their emotions. More specifically, their closeted homósexual feelings towards Eddie Hearn.

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                • #18
                  I can't quite understand anyone being adamant either way.

                  Judges are sitting ringside and they can only see what they can see.

                  I had Taylor winning, but I had her winning in June and I had Breakhus winning last week. I'll always judge effective punches, defence and movement more highly than windmilling and hoping something lands. Of course if the windmill is landing then you judge what you see. But a clean straight right hand beats a grazing blind hook every day. Not all punches are equal.

                  After the Breakhus cards last week I thought Persoon might get the result. She put on huge pressure, even if it was very crude. I don't know what the punch stats said but it was probably pretty even.

                  But if you rate those shots equally, then you could easily have Persoon ahead. And MacCaskill.

                  A weird quirk of our sport. 3 people who don't necessarily have the best view decide the fight.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by marvin douglas View Post
                    Exactly. I found it hard to give katie a single round. Persoon backed he up the whole fight and katie didn't counterpunch very well. Call it like it is -- a robbery.
                    Taylor easily outboxed Persoon in the first few rounds, then by the looks of things she tired out which allowed Persoon to catch her more. There were only two rounds that Persoon clearly, undoubtably won. She only just nicked the other two. Taylor undoubtably won three (or four), and just nicked the others.

                    People need to realise, throwing punches at an opponent who slips, blocks and parries them is not a scoring criteria. Blocking, parrying and slipping punches is.

                    Let's just breakdown what happened in the second half of the fight; Persoon was plowing forward, throwing 8 punches to land 2 as Taylor was slipping, blocking, and parrying. Taylor was fighting in bursts of 4 or 5 punches and landing 2, which were cleaner and more effective, and then slipping the majority of punches being thrown back. So that's Taylor's defence, for the most part, was more effective than Persoon's aggression, and Taylor's punches, for the most part, were cleaner and more effective.

                    If Persoon threw 100 punches per round and only landed 20 due to Taylor's defence, and Taylor threw 20 punches per round and lands ten, Taylor wins the round. Effective defence beats ineffective aggression. Unfortunately, people seem to think scoring is subjective, but it simply isn't. The criteria is set in stone.

                    The 98–92 score was ridiculous. 96–94 to Taylor is what I had it. It could have been 96–94 to Persoon or a draw. That's by no means a robbery.

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                    • #20
                      Just went and checked out the punch stats.

                      From rounds 7-10 Persoon threw 319 punches and landed 39!

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