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  • Originally posted by factsarenice View Post
    I agree, people won't admit it but Keith built his brand 1st on HBO and then Showtime. Keith is probably the biggest active draw at 147 behind Manny.
    What a terrible joke.

    Spence has the highest views out of all PBC fighters with his 6 million views on Showtime.

    Spence has had two successful ppvs and Thurman hasn't even had one.

    The PAC fight doesn't count, because all those views came because of Pac.

    If Spence fought Pac he would make a million easily.

    In fact, I'm sure even Crawford would make a million easy if he fought Pac.

    The fact that Thurman didn't make a mil while fighting the great Manny Pacquiao just proves that Thurman is a crappy draw.

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    • Thurman's people are asking for $10million, who thinks Thurman is worth that amount ?, I don't know but based on no live gates shouldn't he be asking for way less ?, And plus they could divide up the PPV's, I'm sure that fight would do big numbers and in the end he probably would get close to the $10mill he's asking for , not $10mill plus PPV'S which would work out closer to dam near $15mill for Thurman, if Thurman got that type of money what would you need to pay the champ Crawford ? Like $17/20million ?, As the whole world can see Thurman just priced him self clean out of the fight , because he really don't want that work and him and his team know that another loss straight after the Pac Man loss would not be good for Thurman and what ever future in boxing he's got left.
      Last edited by ptek; 08-19-2020, 06:15 PM.

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        • Originally posted by Ray* View Post
          I don't give a phuck about call outs, Gary Russell is also calling him out, Keith *Part time* Thurman is fooling idiots not me. He isn't here for the competition and he shouldn't be rewarded due to that. He should have fought Bud when he had the belts, he didn't....Nor do I want to see Brook in there with Bud. Beating this version of Thurman does nothing for Bud's resume. Keef is just here for a payday.
          I think even if you have solid points, it's still sad. Here's why. Even with Thurman not looking the same(I say that is more because of inactivity since he didn't look bad vs Pacquiao), even if he is a shadow of who he was when he beat Danny Garcia and Shawn Porter, he's the toughest fighter Crawford ever faced. Crawford is about to turn 33 and has few significant wins yet he's ranked as a p4p? Based on what?

          I find it crazy when I looked at a guy like Andre Ward. He had significant wins but really didn't get the recognition until he beat Kovalev at the end of his career. I get he had promotional issues. But before he beat Kovalev he had a few significant wins in his career. Abraham, Kessler, Froch to name a few. Crawford doesn't have those names. He believes his best win was Ricky Burns. I think it was Gamboa who gave him one of the toughest fights. But we all know Gamboa never lived up to his potential. Crawford beat Postol, a good fighter that no one else knew at 140. There's not one significant win on his resume that says p4p. Sad because he's very talented and I'm sure we won't see him fight any significant fighter while in his prime. He took his secure paydays. I aint mad at him. But his legacy is going to be questioned.

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          • Originally posted by UNBANNED View Post
            Hopefully Crawford gets Manny, Keith, or Porter next. If not hes going to look suspect
            Nah I doubt he fight anyone on that list. He came out and said he don't wanna fight Porter. Apparently Thurman is asking too much. And I'm not sure how interested Pacquiao is of fighting Crawford.

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            • Originally posted by TheWinners View Post
              I think even if you have solid points, it's still sad. Here's why. Even with Thurman not looking the same(I say that is more because of inactivity since he didn't look bad vs Pacquiao), even if he is a shadow of who he was when he beat Danny Garcia and Shawn Porter, he's the toughest fighter Crawford ever faced. Crawford is about to turn 33 and has few significant wins yet he's ranked as a p4p? Based on what?

              I find it crazy when I looked at a guy like Andre Ward. He had significant wins but really didn't get the recognition until he beat Kovalev at the end of his career. I get he had promotional issues. But before he beat Kovalev he had a few significant wins in his career. Abraham, Kessler, Froch to name a few. Crawford doesn't have those names. He believes his best win was Ricky Burns. I think it was Gamboa who gave him one of the toughest fights. But we all know Gamboa never lived up to his potential. Crawford beat Postol, a good fighter that no one else knew at 140. There's not one significant win on his resume that says p4p. Sad because he's very talented and I'm sure we won't see him fight any significant fighter while in his prime. He took his secure paydays. I aint mad at him. But his legacy is going to be questioned.
              It’s definitely sad when fans cape for boxers who have done nothing lately, am not one of those fans. Thurman’s last significant win was back in 2017 against a former 140 who has done nothing at 147.

              It’s not worth paying him over the odds to get his now diminished name on Crawford resume. I mean the guy hasn’t fought for a year, last seen getting beat by a 40 year old Pacman. The same fans caping for him now to get paid 5/7m by Arum are the same ones who wouldn’t entertain him fighting Crawford when he had two belts.

              Us the fans need to start calling it like it is, fact is Thurman brings nothing to the table right now to justify the payday he would require in this pandemic, and even a win over him doesn’t do much for Crawford resume because Thurman isn’t motivated, he is talking because he wants a final good payday. And am sorry that am not falling for his BS.

              Go get a win, come back or a renew sense of motivation and dedication to boxing, then maybe fans would believe you or back you. What we want is a unification between all belt holders. Not one that is looking for paydays... Side note (Spence and Porter made 2m each for their fight). That’s how you know this guy and Brook are just looking for final paydays.

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              • Originally posted by Ray* View Post
                It’s definitely sad when fans cape for boxers who have done nothing lately, am not one of those fans. Thurman’s last significant win was back in 2017 against a former 140 who has done nothing at 147.

                It’s not worth paying him over the odds to get his now diminished name on Crawford resume. I mean the guy hasn’t fought for a year, last seen getting beat by a 40 year old Pacman. The same fans caping for him now to get paid 5/7m by Arum are the same ones who wouldn’t entertain him fighting Crawford when he had two belts.

                Us the fans need to start calling it like it is, fact is Thurman brings nothing to the table right now to justify the payday he would require in this pandemic, and even a win over him doesn’t do much for Crawford resume because Thurman isn’t motivated, he is talking because he wants a final good payday. And am sorry that am not falling for his BS.

                Go get a win, come back or a renew sense of motivation and dedication to boxing, then maybe fans would believe you or back you. What we want is a unification between all belt holders. Not one that is looking for paydays... Side note (Spence and Porter made 2m each for their fight). That’s how you know this guy and Brook are just looking for final paydays.
                lol if u think porter and spence both made just 2 mil....cmon guy....thats just their base purse...or at least just spences....

                get a signifigant win? how about crawford tries that too? lol...im no keith fan...but jesus

                youre talking about him losing to an old pac...yet as soon as pac beat thurman old bob and crawford started licking their chops and calling for a pac fight...

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                • Originally posted by NC Uppercut View Post
                  Keith Thurman's rep wanted 3 million plus incentives.
                  That's real talk
                  The real # was $10 mil, same BS like jermall turning down 12-15 mil to fight andrade and canelo,same side of the street with keef. People are talking about Khan's 5 mil but Khan brought in UK and Arab money. I guess Keef is bringing in St Petersburg and Napel money. He really doesnt want the fight. The narratives are getting ol. Keef, 11 toes, Stuntman and Booster don't want the fight. Look what they have done with the division since 2015 while Crawford has an undisputed, 2 lineals, 2 ring. it's getting old now. Manny don't want the heat either. that's why he is trying to fight fat mikey garcia. brook vs crawford.
                  Last edited by hhh1200; 08-19-2020, 09:11 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post
                    $3mil is reasonable!! khan got $5mil for crawford!! horn got $1.25 mil.. but now $3mil for thurman is too much?
                    I think Thurman's team want $10million , and Arum said that's way to much, I think the counter offer is $3million so let's see what Thurman's people say about that .

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                    • Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post
                      lol if u think porter and spence both made just 2 mil....cmon guy....thats just their base purse...or at least just spences....

                      get a signifigant win? how about crawford tries that too? lol...im no keith fan...but jesus

                      youre talking about him losing to an old pac...yet as soon as pac beat thurman old bob and crawford started licking their chops and calling for a pac fight...
                      Unfortunately your wrong, Crawford been asking for Pac Man since 2013/2014.

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