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  • Goldie
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    #141
    Originally posted by MulaKO
    Never said he’s an atg
    That will be decided later on
    Funny how people are willing to call him atg if he beats Lopez when in all reality Lopez hasn’t done chit
    Exactly. We don’t know how good lopez is yet we’re already hearing what this will mean for loma if he wins. It was the same thing with fury and wilder. The same people who did nothing but trash wilder as a fraud and hype job, pretend that fury is an atg due to beating him.


    Originally posted by Cypocryphy
    [SIZE="4"][FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"]No. He already accepted the reduced offer, and then he, though he didn't have to, said he'd voluntarily take less to increase the "pot," so that Lopez could have more. He already accepted the initial offer. You're missing the point here; he "voluntarily" gave from his already accepted purse amount to Lopez. He did NOT have to do that. But for THAT, Lopez would not be fighting and we wouldn't have a great fight coming up in October.



    It was his money because that was his offer, which he already had accepted. I repeat: HE DID NOT HAVE TO DO THAT. IT WAS AN OFFER AND AMOUNT HE ALREADY HAD ACCEPTED.



    You're damn right. He didn't do it out of the goodness of his heart. He did it to make Lopez look like the clown he is and to make the fight happen before Lopez waits until Loma has a grey beard and bushy eyebrows.
    You keep saying that loma didn’t have to take the reduced purse, but he did have to if he wanted to make the fight. It wasn’t voluntary. Lopez forced the concession by standing on his square. Arum/loma initially tried to low ball lopez calling the first offer “Final, take it or leave it”. They even ran to the press and tried to sht on lopez’s name through their shills in the media with fanboys like you taking the bait hook, line, and sinker. When lopez didn’t cave to the pressure from the media and fanboys like you calling him scared, foolish, etc, that forced loma/arum’s hand.

    Loma doesn’t deserve any credit for the negotiations, lopez does. Loma tried to low ball lopez and now y’all are spinning it like he sacrificed money to make the fight. He was never deserving of a 75-25 split, they were being greedy.

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    • rickJen
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      #142
      Wow. According to these dumb fks Loma is the only one
      who has obligation to make the fight happen.
      The Teo clown, who begged for the fight, doesn't.
      Lopez-turned fanboys are the scourge of this sport.

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      • MulaKO
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        #143
        Originally posted by Goldie
        Exactly. We don’t know how good lopez is yet we’re already hearing what this will mean for loma if he wins. It was the same thing with fury and wilder. The same people who did nothing but trash wilder as a fraud and hype job, pretend that fury is an atg due to beating him.



        You keep saying that loma didn’t have to take the reduced purse, but he did have to if he wanted to make the fight. It wasn’t voluntary. Lopez forced the concession by standing on his square. Arum/loma initially tried to low ball lopez calling the first offer “Final, take it or leave it”. They even ran to the press and tried to sht on lopez’s name through their shills in the media with fanboys like you taking the bait hook, line, and sinker. When lopez didn’t cave to the pressure from the media and fanboys like you calling him scared, foolish, etc, that forced loma/arum’s hand.

        Loma doesn’t deserve any credit for the negotiations, lopez does. Loma tried to low ball lopez and now y’all are spinning it like he sacrificed money to make the fight. He was never deserving of a 75-25 split, they were being greedy.


        I made many threads calling out those dumbasses , the same morons who said Wilder was total trash and then baptized Fury as atg cause he beat trash , according to them
        I do think though there is no comparison between Wilder and Loma or Fury for that matter

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        • Cypocryphy
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          #144
          Originally posted by Goldie
          Exactly. We don’t know how good lopez is yet we’re already hearing what this will mean for loma if he wins. It was the same thing with fury and wilder. The same people who did nothing but trash wilder as a fraud and hype job, pretend that fury is an atg due to beating him.
          For those people that know boxing, that understand it, you can tell that Lopez is the real deal. He's just not better than Lomachenko.

          Wilder, however, is a great athlete but crap boxer. He lacks the fundamentals, and when he was bullied, he freaked out and just stood around to be bullied. He doesn't have that "dog" in him, as people like to say. And he is a horrible boxer. But Wilder is a phenomenal athlete, and that's what has carried him to the top until Fury exposed him.

          Lopez is different, cut from a different cloth. Lopez has fantastic technique. I could break it down for you and compare the two if I had the time. Lopez is better than Haney, Garcia, Shakur (possibly) Rollie, any of these guys coming up. And if he chose this fight later, the one with Loma, I'd probably have him winning. Maybe. But Lopez is still growing and learning. Or he has more to learn. And it's not just experience. Loma is still at his peak, and Lopez has great fight IQ, but Loma is just much smarter in the ring. He won't be able to outthink Loma. Loma is faster, too. Doesn't hit as hard but is faster. Loma is not flatfooted either. (Watch how that comes into play in the fight. Haney wasn't lying when he said that.)


          You keep saying that loma didn’t have to take the reduced purse, but he did have to if he wanted to make the fight. It wasn’t voluntary. Lopez forced the concession by standing on his square. Arum/loma initially tried to low ball lopez calling the first offer “Final, take it or leave it”. They even ran to the press and tried to sht on lopez’s name through their shills in the media with fanboys like you taking the bait hook, line, and sinker. When lopez didn’t cave to the pressure from the media and fanboys like you calling him scared, foolish, etc, that forced loma/arum’s hand.

          Loma doesn’t deserve any credit for the negotiations, lopez does. Loma tried to low ball lopez and now y’all are spinning it like he sacrificed money to make the fight. He was never deserving of a 75-25 split, they were being greedy.
          This isn't even debatable man. I'll just pull out a dictionary. Do I have to do that?

          Voluntary means by volition, meaning he did it out of his own free will. He did not have to take the fight. He could have waited for Lopez to fight him later, just as Lopez wanted to do, when there'd be a live gate. Then they would have fulfilled his contractual earnings amount.

          I get the feeling that you're the type of guy that will argue till the cows come home that the color red is actually grey or some crap like that. You've got no argument man. And the more you perpetuate this, the more ridiculous you look and sound.
          Last edited by Cypocryphy; 08-16-2020, 02:35 PM.

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          • Goldie
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            #145
            Originally posted by Cypocryphy
            [SIZE="4"][FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"] This isn't even debatable man. I'll just pull out a dictionary. Do I have to do that?

            Voluntary means by volition, meaning he did it out of his own free will. He did not have to take the fight. He could have waited for Lopez to fight him later, just as Lopez wanted to do, when there'd be a live gate. Then they would have fulfilled his contractual earnings amount.

            I get the feeling that you're the type of guy that will argue till the cows come home that the color red is actually grey or some crap like that. You've got no argument man. And the more you perpetuate this, the more ridiculous you look and sound.
            Neither guy HAD to take the fight dumbfk. Lopez didn’t have to take the fight either. You’re literally arguing semantics like a btch to justify sucking loma off. Then you have the nerve to try and project your feminine behavior on me.

            Loma is not doing lopez any favors here, he’s doing the best business for himself because lopez is his most viable option at present time. If loma didn’t decide to give up more of the pot to fight lopez then the fight was off and he would’ve had to take even less to fight somebody else. Easy decision.

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            • Cypocryphy
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              #146
              Originally posted by Goldie
              Neither guy HAD to take the fight dumbfk. Lopez didn’t have to take the fight either. You’re literally arguing semantics like a btch to justify sucking loma off. Then you have the nerve to try and project your feminine behavior on me.

              Loma is not doing lopez any favors here, he’s doing the best business for himself because lopez is his most viable option at present time. If loma didn’t decide to give up more of the pot to fight lopez then the fight was off and he would’ve had to take even less to fight somebody else. Easy decision.
              I have to argue semantics when you're inventing crap as you go along. I'm glad you said that neither fighter had to accept the fight. Both took mandatory reductions. Lomachenko, however, accepted immediately. Lopez did not. So Lopez voluntarily said I won't fight Lomachenko, I'll fight my mandatory. Then Lomachenko said, okay, hold up, I'll take another cut to make this fight happen.

              And THEN; AND THEN, Lomachenko put 250k back in the pot, so Teofimo could make 1.45 million rather than 1.2 million. So 1.2 million was a low ball offer. But 1.45 million was a sweet deal!! Hell yeah. That makes a perfect gift card amount for Amazon Fresh.

              And Lomachenko has a guaranteed amount. He would have probably made more than what he's making now because whomever he fought next would be making much less than Lopez. There would be a million to work with there. So Loma could have made more fighting someone else. That's just what would have happened.

              There's no other way to look at it. It looks absurd for a guy to scream "you guys are low balling me" with 1.2 million and then when offered less than 1.5 million, he's like, "Oh yeah, that's good."

              It is what it is Ż\_(ツ)_/Ż

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              • Goldie
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                #147
                Originally posted by Cypocryphy
                I have to argue semantics when you're inventing crap as you go along. I'm glad you said that neither fighter had to accept the fight. Both took mandatory reductions. Lomachenko, however, accepted immediately. Lopez did not. So Lopez voluntarily said I won't fight Lomachenko, I'll fight my mandatory. Then Lomachenko said, okay, hold up, I'll take another cut to make this fight happen.

                And THEN; AND THEN, Lomachenko put 250k back in the pot, so Teofimo could make 1.45 million rather than 1.2 million. So 1.2 million was a low ball offer. But 1.45 million was a sweet deal!! Hell yeah. That makes a perfect gift card amount for Amazon Fresh.

                And Lomachenko has a guaranteed amount. He would have probably made more than what he's making now because whomever he fought next would be making much less than Lopez. There would be a million to work with there. So Loma could have made more fighting someone else. That's just what would have happened.

                There's no other way to look at it. It looks absurd for a guy to scream "you guys are low balling me" with 1.2 million and then when offered less than 1.5 million, he's like, "Oh yeah, that's good."

                It is what it is Ż\_(ツ)_/Ż
                More projection. You’re the one who’s literally been making sht up during this whole ordeal. You don’t know what the exact terms of the fight are, you’re just pulling numbers out ya a$$. You’ve literally been wrong the entire time and you don’t even realize what how foolish you look.



                Originally posted by Cypocryphy
                Who here believes that this "negotiation" is a direct result of the public uproar made by his turning down one million and two-hundred thousand dollars because his family needs to eat? I think he had his ears to the ground, and this is the result.
                Originally posted by Goldie
                Well considering that this site is made up of mostly childish fanboys who don’t have basic common sense, there’s probably a lot of people who agree with you.

                Arum said that the 1.2 was the final “take it or leave it offer, so I don’t know why they would even still be negotiations. Time will tell who caved.

                Read back through your own threads. You’re just a loma cheerleader. Again, you’ve been wrong about EVERYTHING from the door. You just shut the *** up already.

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                • Cypocryphy
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by Goldie
                  More projection. You’re the one who’s literally been making sht up during this whole ordeal. You don’t know what the exact terms of the fight are, you’re just pulling numbers out ya a$$. You’ve literally been wrong the entire time and you don’t even realize what how foolish you look.

                  https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...=852636&page=2
                  I don't know what you're smoking, man. You posted to a thread showing that I was right. The other things I said were suppositions, such as the offer being final and that it looks as if they won't budge. I never said that's how it is, just how it sounded from the reports at that time. Everything else I said turned out to be true.

                  I don't now what the exact terms are, but I'm going off of what the reports were.

                  Look:
                  “I think Teofimo is beginning to realize that his aspirations as far as how much his purse should be was based on selling tickets to an arena, to as much as two and a half or three million dollars. Plus the closed-circuit – another million dollars. “Those revenue streams are gone. But that doesn’t mean that he shouldn’t get a big purse. And he is getting a big purse. “But you obviously can’t pay the man what you would be able to otherwise if you had a gate and closed-circuit revenue. It’s as simple as that. With that being said, knowing Teofimo and knowing what a good young man he is, we will conclude (a deal) with him shortly.”

                  https://www.*************.com/headli...he-fight-done/
                  In previous fights in which the minimum purses were reported, Lomachenko opponents like Jorge Linares made $1.2 million, Jose Pedraza earned $1 million, Guillermo Rigondeaux cashed in for $400,000, Jason Sosa clocked in at $350,000, Anthony Crolla and Nicholas Walters each took home $300,000 and Miguel Marriaga made $50,000.

                  Split-T Management head David McWater is stuck in hardball negotiations with Top Rank to make the lightweight unification match between Vasiliy Lomachenko and T

                  At issue had been the offer of $1.25 million to Lopez out of approximately $4.7 million available to be split between the fighters for a fight that probably would have generated millions in gate revenue. But without spectators allowed to buy tickets it was more difficult to work out the money. In the end, Lopez will get closer to $2 million with Lomachenko said to have been willing to give up a piece of his purse to help get the deal done.

                  Read back through your own threads. You’re just a loma cheerleader. Again, you’ve been wrong about EVERYTHING from the door. You just shut the *** up already.
                  The much-anticipated Vasiliy Lomachenko-Teofimo Lopez Jr. lightweight title unification fight has been agreed to. After weeks of difficult negotiations between


                  Yup. Uh huh You must need a mirror to realize how much of a damn fool you look. You see that above there? Those are facts, as have been reported by all the sports news outlets. What do you have other than your blunt fueled delusions. I mean, if you can find delusional news reports to support your delusional assertions, I'd be happy to look at them. But chances are they're nothing but a mirage much like your make believe augments.

                  I'll spank you again if you want.

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                  • Goldie
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by Cypocryphy
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                    I don't now what the exact terms are, but I'm going off of what the reports were.

                    Look:
                    You're too gotdamn ****** to even read and comprehend the things that you post.
                    Originally posted by Cypocryphy

                    At issue had been the offer of $1.25 million to Lopez out of approximately $4.7 million available to be split between the fighters for a fight that probably would have generated millions in gate revenue. But without spectators allowed to buy tickets it was more difficult to work out the money. In the end, Lopez will get closer to $2 million with Lomachenko said to have been willing to give up a piece of his purse to help get the deal done.

                    Originally posted by Cypocryphy
                    [SIZE="4"][FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"] so Teofimo could make 1.45 million rather than 1.2 million. So 1.2 million was a low ball offer. But 1.45 million was a sweet deal!! Hell yeah. That makes a perfect gift card amount for Amazon Fresh.
                    Exhibit A.

                    Even after you posted the report saying lopez will make close to $2mill, you still run with the $1.45 number you pulled out your a$$ just so you could continue sucking loma off and shtting on lopez.

                    You haven’t right about anything. Your ****** a$$ actually thought the fight was off and lopez had to beg to back to the negotiating table. Your dumb a$$ didn’t think that lopez could get more money and saying that he had to cave. You’re an idiot my dude. A ****** mother***er lol.



                    Originally posted by el_mas_chingon
                    Today during the telecast of Frampton on espn they stated that Loma giving money out of his own purse was not true and was just rumors floating around!
                    Originally posted by Cypocryphy
                    Right. I replayed it. According to Teofimo Lopez it's not true. That doesn't count for much in my book.
                    Lol at this clown calling lopez a liar just to continue figuratively juggling loma in his mouth. You’re pathetic.

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                    • Cypocryphy
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by Goldie
                      Lol at this clown calling lopez a liar just to continue figuratively juggling loma in his mouth. You’re pathetic.
                      Okay you re†ard. I suppose communicating with you is a form of masochism, which I must enjoy because I continue to explain things to you, a knuckle dragging, drooling moron. You're basically a dumb beast, so this will be the last time.

                      The news had been changing by the day on the Loma - Lopez deal, even by the hour, so that's why there were changes in what I was saying.

                      But as far as not believing what Lopez says, it's due to already catching him in lies. He said that Loma wanted a tune up fight and didn't want to fight him. That was a lie. He said he wanted to fight Haney and sent Haney an offer, but Hearn said he never had received anything, and that "fight" never went anywhere, so that was a lie, too. I could go on, but the Lopez kid doesn't have a good track record for telling the truth.

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