How do you fight a fighter with a very negative style?

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  • sicko
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    #11
    Angelo Leo just did it a week ago...Relentless Pressure, High Work Rate and focus on going to the Body

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    • Butt stuff
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      #12
      Originally posted by UNBANNED
      Go to the body, use your own feints to set traps. Punch them all over including chest and elbows and aim at their throat.

      Even the best boxers can be feinted...see Madiana Mayweather 2
      Yeah thats just what Loma did to Rigondeaux, loads of feinting and volume of punches. Jabbing the absolute **** out of him everywhere and constantly circling, so he was struggling to keep track of where Loma was at whilst in a negative/spoiler stance.

      And absolutely wrenching himself out of the clinch and exploding back into boxing too. Golovkin's great at breaking out of a clinch too using his elbows/head etc.

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      • whollisboxing
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        #13
        Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
        In your opinion,
        if your the trainer of a fighter and he’s fighting a fighter who’s athletic, crafty(knows how to bend below the waist, turn his head in the clinch, clinches a lot, etc.), uses the ring a lot, holds and hits, postures a lot, does awkward movements to throw your guy off, turns your fighter, smart(if he gets hurt he’ll tackle your fighter, flop, complain of low blows or phantom fouls, waits for your guy to punch to counter) and doesn’t throw many punches so less opportunities for your fighter,
        What do you tell your guy in the corner going in round 2?


        Let’s talk!
        A lot depends on what kind of fighter I have, but here goes:

        I would just tell my fighter to focus on scoring vs. doing heavy damage to said negative fighter. As for the low blows/phantom fouls, if the ref isn't calling it then I would have my fighter dig in to the belt line at will.

        Last but not least, I would do all this from center ring because he would have to engage at some point. There are a lot of other variables but that's a general outline of how I would approach a negative style.

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        • champion4ever
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          #14
          You teach him patience! Tell him to stay focused and poised and continue to fight his fight. Eventually his time will come.

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          • shenmue
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            #15
            Like Maidana did vs Floyd in the first fight.

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            • R-Hand Southpaw
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              #16
              really sounds like you're either fighting Money Mayweather or Andre Ward.

              If you didn't train to beat their style chances that you cant adapt and win that fight.

              You need to train specific set ups in order to beat them. For example if you're fighting a guy who crouches low and bends at the weights train your fight to learn to lean and pivot off of that set up. Think a lot of what Lomachenko likes to do.

              Floyd likes to bend at the waist and use his shoulder to throw his opponents off balance so he can escape or counter. Lean on the guy. Dig your elbows in and escape to his outside shoulder.

              If hes throwing low blows, I would highly encourage my fighter to fight just as dirty until he's warned. At that point its no longer a boxing match. Its a fight.

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              • Squ□redCircle34
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                #17
                Originally posted by SplitSecond
                Those points are why this style is looked down on. No idea how you fight a guy who’s entire style is surviving, avoiding, negating and he has as much skill as you.
                It’s true that this style is looked at negatively(no pun intended) but it’s very effective and can lead someone to unlikely victory without damage!

                It’s one of the most if not the most difficult style to train for!

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                • Squ□redCircle34
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Get em up
                  Be physical and use dirty tactics if need be to throw off his game. Try to piss him off and see if he slips.
                  I’m not a fan of dirty boxing but if the ref doesn’t get on it then I feel the other fighter/his corner should do the same cuz at that point your not only fighting a fair fight but now at a disadvantage fighting someone completely bending the rules!

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                  • Squ□redCircle34
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Mexican Bidness
                    What fight are you referring to? Going into Round 2? Lol. Here’s my take

                    I mean if your opponent is doing all that in the feel out rounds then you should be able to capitalize on that rhythm past 4 rounds.

                    Usually if your guy holds a lot it frustrates u naturally to do the same, until you snap, and you complain to the ref that he’s doing it. If the ref is allowing all that nonsense then take advantage of it. Usually in such fights fighters say “he was fighting dirty too.”
                    Not any particular fight per say but hypothetically if you were a trainer and your guy is fighting someone with an absolute zero negative style and employs the tactics I mentioned then what would you tell them to do?

                    But you make some good points about the ref if he’s allowing it or not, some refs have lower tolerance than others!

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                    • Squ□redCircle34
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by UNBANNED
                      Go to the body, use your own feints to set traps. Punch them all over including chest and elbows and aim at their throat.

                      Even the best boxers can be feinted...see Madiana Mayweather 2
                      Excellent counter to the tactics I mentioned above, working the body will slow them down and feints open them up to exposing their tendencies!

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