The reason Wilder looks bad against top opposition

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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #11
    Originally posted by Shadoww702
    And Wyte has??? Ohh 1st he fails ped tests and Rivas camp doesn't k iew then they get told Whyte has a 3rd pair of gloves (No chain of command) AND they're already on so his trainer can't see how they wrapped his hands... That some BS!

    You guys over seas allowed do whatever ya want. I mean Nassal Spray Saunders got popped for sht allowed over there but banned everywhere else.
    Whyte has beaten far better competition than Ortiz has, it's not even close.

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    • JakeTheBoxer
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      #12
      Originally posted by Shadoww702
      And Wyte has??? Ohh 1st he fails ped tests and Rivas camp doesn't k iew then they get told Whyte has a 3rd pair of gloves (No chain of command) AND they're already on so his trainer can't see how they wrapped his hands... That some BS!

      You guys over seas allowed do whatever ya want. I mean Nassal Spray Saunders got popped for sht allowed over there but banned everywhere else.
      Yes, Whyte has beaten much better guys than Ortiz did. Why you deny that?

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      • dan_cov
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        #13
        He looks bad against everyone until that right hand lands.

        I remember him fighting a retired super middleweight carrying 120lbs of fat that came to the ring with two knee braces on and still Wilder made him look like Roy Jones Jr until his knee blew out from all the fat he was carrying.

        I think Bellew summed him up best ''He's a one trick pony but it's a helluva trick!''

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        • dan_cov
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          #14


          Still couldn't beat him without hitting him with a load of illegal punches

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            #15
            Originally posted by Shadoww702
            And Wyte has??? Ohh 1st he fails ped tests and Rivas camp doesn't k iew then they get told Whyte has a 3rd pair of gloves (No chain of command) AND they're already on so his trainer can't see how they wrapped his hands... That some BS!

            You guys over seas allowed do whatever ya want. I mean Nassal Spray Saunders got popped for sht allowed over there but banned everywhere else.
            Are you aware that Ortiz has popped dirty? His cheating was basically 100% factual as well, whereas Whyte's is 'iffy' for you to make your own mind up.

            One guy has beaten Rivas, Parker, Chisora, the other guy has beaten..... Jennings? Hammer?

            To even compare the two resumes is verging on blasphemy, even if I think both will get dominated by Fury, Wilder and AJ.

            Ortiz has been wildly overblown because he has a great look, great nickname and the PBC wanted Wilder to have a reputation boost.

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            • Ray*
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              #16
              The best have seen Wilder was against Bermane S in their first fight. Since that fight he had gone downhill in terms of his boxing IQ.

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              • PRINCEKOOL
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                #17
                Because he has intermediate boxing skills. Above elite level punching power, but intermediate boxing skills.

                What actual type of boxer is he? A pressure fighter? A boxer puncher? A ambush fighter? A counter puncher? Nobody knows, not even Deontay Wilder knows, he has no style 'He just reacts to whatever is happening to him inside of a ring, pretty much like a Novice or Intermediate level fighter.

                If he really wanted to and made it his only goal, he could improve his boxing skills 'I am not one of these people who deny this, but I just don't think he has the attitude to do it'.
                Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-09-2020, 10:58 AM.

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                • sicko
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                  #18
                  ...Because he has no damn Boxing Skills!

                  I somewhat lost respect for him as a boxer in the ring when I seen a Interview with him and Radio Rahim and him talking about "Skills Are Overrated" which is a very ignorant thing to say for a Boxer! He can only beat Fury if he Knocks him because of his lack of "Skills"

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                  • Bunch Pag
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                    #19
                    He's always looked bad against a decent boxer..

                    If Ortiz could actually finish a bloke off he would be up on Wilder too...

                    Because these people can't finish off, it gives someone with the power of Wilder to put the fight to bed...

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                    • The plunger man
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                      #20
                      Boxing has always been determined by how good your footwork and balance is...time and time again we have seen wilder off balance and with terrible footwork.
                      He lacks the fundamentals and sooner or later he was going to get clipped and he did and he has so many bad habits that I don’t see anyway back for him except if he lands that right hand.
                      His best bet against fury is to straighten up his punches and improve his core strength but it’s a really tall order

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