I can see both sides, this is a career move on both sides. On Lomas side are the 15-0 guys, who think Salido did the impossible by being old and fat. Then there is Teo... write in,'s side, he's got drawing power, you know, flipper. Personally and I pick losers all the time, I can see Lopez's side better, because it is about the drawing power, not the belt collection.
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Split-T, amateur managers that think they are smarter than they really are case in point this fight..
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Originally posted by TarasMarcenko View PostThe expected pull for this fight for Loma was 8 million. Due to covid he came down. Genius. Not too difficult to understand. And you cherry picked my comment, typical, without addressing the full comment.
Loma is worth 3 to 1 what Lopez is for this fight. Dispute that, out-of-context, mental math wanna be. It's what everything has been building up towards and what it would finally be worth to Loma after 5 belts in 15 fights, belt holders avoiding him at 126 and 130 forcing him to move to 135 to reach his goal of undisputed. This is his big payday, not Teo's and Loma lost big on this contract negotiation. Putting it all on the line for 250k more than to fight Crolla, is a huge pay cut. Dumb ass with no clarity.
Let's take your argument the other direction. With your logic, it's Teo's ego getting in the way. He beat a bunch of cab drivers and one solid champion in Commey and 300% higher pay day, highest payday by far, is sitting on the table and what? 300% of what he got paid to fight Commey.
He's getting way overpaid in comparison to Loma, if that is your '******' argument, judged against their highest pull so far.
And this author is not in the know, but is spouting some loose Google search, because he avoids the who and when. What was the pull for the Campbell fight? No one has reported. But you can bet a sold out 02 and fight for the third belt was a better paying gig than the Crolla fight, which was 3.2.
This author not listing who the biggest payday for Loma was against is a red flag, it's best estimate with known data. Reader have common sense.
And why are you on here? Really why? You don't care about Loma, except as a hater. You certainly don't care about Lopez. Show us the other fights of Lopez' and your comments. Starting with Commey and Lopez. Let's see how much of a Lopez fan you are. You're just a shill for bb, a Haney crooner who wants to take down the white hype so you can look in the mirror and feel good about your miserably misplaced self-esteem.
Let's be real about what's going on here.
So is Bob saying everyone had higher numbers before the pandemic? Idiot... That’s mythical money that sounds good in a negotiation. You really think Loma was about to go from a couple of million to 8 million with no PPV success?
Here is what team Teo said...
“They never gave us a [financial] number before the pandemic. Never once. They never discussed it for this fight — period — no matter how much I asked until July 28, and you can bet I’ve asked hundreds of times over the course of the year,” McWater told BoxingScene.com in a recent interview.
So bro, is Teo’s Manager lying too? Why was Loma given an 8 million dollar 3-4x pay raise?
He wasn’t pulling PPV’s before Teo wouldn’t their still be all this risk before the pandemic? What venue was going to allow for Lima’s financial eruption? Either you are that dumb or playing dumb.
Lol...And no one is honoring your I am more credible than the author delusions. And please, please give us the pitiful source of your fighter value measurement algorithm? Let me guess Bob ****ing up fights Arum?
Dude stop already this is a child’s argument. You are just making up crazed commentary.
So not only are the writers risking libel suits to downplay Loma’s pay, you are accusing Boxing scene of just letting people make up fake numbers up unedited regarding one of the biggest promoters in boxing. Thanks for confirming you are slower than wall-sliding *****...LMAO[/B]
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Slippery Bob up to his old tricks trying to play Black and Latino fighters for fools. This is why I'm floored when these fools sign with him instead of one of Al's promoters or even Weasel Eddie. Lopez should just move up to 140 because Bob will never make an effort to secure him he big fights at 135 in cross-promotions.
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Originally posted by Fire4231 View Post“They never gave us a [financial] number before the pandemic. Never once. They never discussed it for this fight — period — no matter how much I asked until July 28, and you can bet I’ve asked hundreds of times over the course of the year,” McWater told BoxingScene.com in a recent interview. [/B]
So what is it? They never got a financial number or they got 3.2 million and are being shorted? Which one is it? When you've got people talking out of their ass and saying whatever sounds good at the time, it makes them look like damn fools, like "clowns." How is anyone supposed to even take these ******s seriously when they can't even get the story straight among themselves?
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Originally posted by BlackR0bbb View PostSlippery Bob up to his old tricks trying to play Black and Latino fighters for fools. This is why I'm floored when these fools sign with him instead of one of Al's promoters or even Weasel Eddie. Lopez should just move up to 140 because Bob will never make an effort to secure him he big fights at 135 in cross-promotions.
And its not just Arum its all promoters will play this out the same way.
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Originally posted by R-Hand Southpaw View PostThe guy seems to be a real humble dude. He's old school in a lot of his beliefs and things and that seperates himself from a lot of these new age diva types.
I dont know how anyone could actually hate him for any other reason.
Great skills
Great person
Takes on everyone
Like I said in a different post hes goy claim to have been rhe best at 126,130, and 135. Very few tough opponents left.
The ones squabbling are the promoters/managers, I suspect the two boxers themselves will insist it goes ahead whatever the outcomeas the fight is really the only one they both want; Loma for the unification, Teo for a legit shot at insta-greatness, and little downside if he loses to an ATG.
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Originally posted by R-Hand Southpaw View PostWell I am here now Lil Fella and I have been putting on a clinic.
LMFAO. No one see a clinic going on here lmfao!
Like are you even a fan if Teofimo Lopez?
So the answer is no? You're not a fan of Teofimo Lopez right? Such a simple question that someone as amazing like you couldnt even answer.
Are you a teofimo Lopez fan and how long have you been a fan of his? Tell me? Lmfao! And you claim to be putting on a clinic!
Lmfao. Wow... Some real fan boyish right here... no cheerleader I am a boxing fan. We clearly know you are a Loma fan. You got you cape on tight to save your favorite fighter from any significant risk.
WE WANT LOPEZ IN THE RING. Bring it on lmfao! You're so pathetic you're seriously trying to spin this!
Why don't we start easy then so you can humilate yourself.
Why don’t you quit exaggerating your worth as a threat to anyone. You are quite clumsy at this sport called debate.
For a guy who talks like he has facts you've provided ZERO. All you've done is debate me with your fanboyish and you're not even a fan of Teofimo Lopez lmfao! You're a real boxing fan? Boxing fans want fights! You want to pretend that Teofimo is worth more than he isnt and have proven nothing
So tell me. How popular is Lopez? Becauze you seem to think Lomachenko needs him to get into PPV.
Maybe that because bringing him to the table made the fight PPV worthy. Lol... Let see if Loma verses Verdejo sells as a PPV. Meet me back here when it’s over.
No. That bull**** answer means squat. Thats a ****** ass opinion with no facts to back it. Teofimo Lopez is a ****ing unknown. Come on, 30k followers on Twitter?
Lomachenko was 6 times the amount of followers.
Want to do Google searches over the last 3 years and see who is more popular?
Lomachenko is the only way Lopez gets onto PPV. Quit ****ing lying youb****** ass fan boy! And i can't even call you that because you're not even a Lopez fan!
And your best defense is Loma vs Verdejo isn't PPV. Asnwer another question? Who said that that fight was PPV worthy? Oh? Not going to answer that one too? Lmfao!!!!
How many times has he been featured on a main event card hmm? Not applicable, how big is this match up? If Teo makes the match up why does Loma get a raise and Teo get a pay cut? Why would it be wrong to offer the winner a bonus? Answer these questions clown.
COMPLETELY APPLICABLE! but youre refuse to acknowledge that fact because it doesn't fit you agenda. Its so funny that you're so ****** that you can't see that. So if you call it fake news it must be fake! Lmfao you can't make this **** up!
Tell me man, as a real boxing fan you think a guy who doesn't headline cards is more popluar than a guy who has done several?? Lmfaooooooooooooooooo
Wanna tell me how many fans he has? Wtf? Lol... Head count master you tell me, how many fans do they both have?Answer these questions!!
Lmfaooooooooooooo. You don't even have a clue do you? Literally you've provided ZERO substance yet act like you have all the facts in the book lmfao.
Can i prove without a doubt Lomachenko has more fans? Absolutely. Can I count all of them? Nope.
But feel free to compare social media. Fight night viewership. Things like that. You know, things a REAL BOXING FAN would know.
How about you tell me about all the good opponents he has fought? Another wtf... Bro, I know boxing like you know failure. Look up boxing rec on your own time. I can confirm he just knocked a very seasoned threat to Loma in Richard Commey the **** out. Teo stock is booming clown.
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO. I DONT NEED TO GO TO BOXING REC BECAUSE I ACTUALLY WATCH THE FIGHTS and he's the only guy who has fought real ****ing tomato cans
Ohhhh a real boxing fan knows that triangle theory doesn't work
such lovely responses you've gotten for me. Hey man. Wanna do another solid?
You're so confident Teo is going to win bet me.
1. Teo ducks Lomachenko and you get banned.
2. Teo fights Lomachenko and Lomachenko wins and you also get banned.
I'll get banned if Teofimo wins like you think he will.
Come on. Its easy. Come on you real BOXING FAN.
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[B No one is admitting to a clinic. But it doesn’t change the reality that it is one... factz your getting ****ed up.
Read this whole gibberish filled rant and you said absolutely nothing. I want my time back. Just repeated your false logic again and again. Even the jokes where garbage.
Only a fanboy believes I have to be a fan of someone to tell the truth about their situation. Because all you as fan boy do is ride blindly and lie for your man crush. You told on yourself with this rant.
What does being a man fan have to do with the overall sport of boxing and its business. Why are you so concerned that Teo not get his worth? Are you procurement for Top Rank? What does being a fan have to do with just telling the truth shapeshifter? And why did you assume I believe Teo is going to win because I want to see the fight?
Your an idiot bro? And if you watch the fights I certainly can’t tell from your commentary. You are such a fan boy you think everyone else behaves like you. I will let you know my prediction fight week. And unlike you, I won’t cry and make a bunch of excuses if my choice doesn’t win.
You really “seem,” like the guy who used to be a GGG or Sergei fan that “hoped and hopped,” the fence to the next guy Lomachenko when they declined.
If it helps Bothe fighters are favorites. Matter of fact, I was a Loma fan when you **** boys didn’t give a ***** about him. You were in love with GGG’s “power.” Also been watching better boxers than you have seen in this generation.
Keep cheerleading captain. If you face the field every now and then you may realize there is also a sport happening in the ring.
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Originally posted by BaguMka View PostWalk away from unique opportunity to beat one of the best p4p fighter (per Lopez he knock Loma out easily) why wouldn't you take 1.2m and then get way better money ???
These clowns pricing themselves out of the fight
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