Wilder should allow Tyson Fury to handle AJ and Whyte before their trilogy fight.

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  • REDEEMER
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    #11
    Originally posted by boliodogs
    Wilder is not going to benefit from tune up fights. He just gets older with more wear and tear, What is best for Wilder is to study film of his loss and try to win the third fight asap. Stepping aside while Fury takes other fights is good for Fury but not for Wilder.
    Really that’s just another excuse waiting to happen for Wilder to put in the bank, lack of activity. Wilder already has a huge deficit working against him in the skills department, taking time off won’t help that at all ,he’s not a natural boxer to just walk into any top fight with a year or more off and perform his best even if he would rather rest up that’s as good as throwing the towel in against Fury or A.J . If he’s letting Fury get more fights in that only makes his chances even slimmer which is just about at the bottom of the barrel now so not sure where you see it’s good for Wilder not taking any fights ,he has never took that long a layoff and now coming off multiple losses ?
    Last edited by REDEEMER; 08-08-2020, 03:22 PM.

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    • JakeTheBoxer
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      #12
      Wilder has no choice but to fight Fury next. What should he do, fight Ruiz next or Martin risking a loss in non -title fight for much less money?

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      • Bunch Pag
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        #13
        I don't think there's anything to gain for Wilder to step aside for a while..

        It'd be nearly 2 years maybe more before getting another sniff and that's if he's beaten these guys.. he'd be knocking on 37/38 which will be a step too far for me..

        Maybe it's frustrations from my side but I only want to see Fury v AJ unification and would like it sorted asap, after wilder and Pulev.. for me, a unification is the only fight in the HW division that needs to be done...

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          #14
          Originally posted by W1LL
          Makes perfect sense to me.

          Deontay should take a couple of tune-up fights, considering the amount of injuries he sustained; the dent in his head, his legs still being tired from carrying the suit, his arms and shoulders and knuckles breaking down from all that windmilling and horrendous form he has been displaying throughout his career. So why not take a few tune-ups?

          I am sure Fury and Whyte would both agree to give him an option on fighting the winner down the line. The same arrangement could be made for the Fury/Whyte vs. AJ winner. He would come as baggage for whoever holds the WBC title.

          So in theory Deontay could fight two lower-level opponents that he is more used to facing, maybe even have the fearsome Luis Ortiz in a rubber match, then someone like... Charles Martin. Would give him the chance to find a little form. Knowing whatever happens, he either fights Fury/Whyte for the WBC, or faces AJ/Fury/Whyte for the Undisputed.

          Would also mean that Fury could fight Whyte in December, and we get the Undisputed next summer. So within 12 months we would have one true King!

          As it stands we're gonna have Fury defend the WBC twice, AJ fight Pulev then do nothing for 6+ months, avoiding Usyk, and making who knows what excuses when the time eventually comes in 18+ months for the path to be clear to make the Undisputed. Do it now I say.
          You are making two assumptions: Firstly, that fury beats AJ and Whyte, which he won't beat either. In fact, he will likely duck at least Whyte and possibly AJ too. The guy cannot be trusted and may just retire rather than face those two.

          Secondly, what makes you think Wilder's habit of ducking tough fights will change anytime soon? He will not fight those guys. He'd rather speak in tongues and riddles about the reasons why the fight can't be made.
          Most likely scenario is Fury beats Wilder, Wilder retires. AJ beats Fury, Fury retires. AJ v Whyte for undisputed.

          Usyk may have a say as mandatory, and Joshua does not duck his mandatories. Dubois / Joyce winner will be knocking on the door late 2021 - I would never think Wilder to be more deserving of an undisputed shot before those guys. Can't stand Wilder, with his lies and excuses. Hype job exposed. The end.

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          • W1LL
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            #15
            Originally posted by Froch_uppercut
            You are making two assumptions: Firstly, that fury beats AJ and Whyte, which he won't beat either. In fact, he will likely duck at least Whyte and possibly AJ too. The guy cannot be trusted and may just retire rather than face those two.
            So if Fury beats Whyte and AJ, will you give him props? Or just find reasons to try to diminish his victories? Because that's all the haters on here ever seem to do when it comes to the Gypsy King. "He won't last a round against Wilder doe!"... "Wilder is a bum now doe!" Etc.

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            • The plunger man
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              #16
              Originally posted by W1LL
              6 defences of the Lineal (only meaningful) title, dogg.

              Your talking like a c@nt lol 6 defences ? Please don’t say your including pianeta , seferi , Swartz and walling as legimate defences....GTFOH dinny

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              • Superbee
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                #17
                Why exactly is Whyte even part of this thread ?

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                • LoadedWraps
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                  #18
                  As a Fury fan, I don't care if he fights Wilder, AJ, Usyk, the ghost of Dempsey, or the post man. I just want to see him active.

                  You know how we say, "when will x fighter fight someone with a pulse?". Don't care if they have a pulse, just throw a body in there, activity, activity, activity.

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                  • Froch_uppercut
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by W1LL
                    So if Fury beats Whyte and AJ, will you give him props? Or just find reasons to try to diminish his victories? Because that's all the haters on here ever seem to do when it comes to the Gypsy King. "He won't last a round against Wilder doe!"... "Wilder is a bum now doe!" Etc.
                    I am absolutely capable of giving props when I was wrong.

                    Of course that has happened to me (where I was wrong), and I said something like "didn't see that coming" or whatever.

                    NOTE: This is the way Joshua took his loss, in front of the world.

                    Wilder took his like a biatch, and his supporters did likewise.

                    There is simply no comparison. At every level from the fighter down to the promoters, fans and so on: there is no argument about which ones are more whiny liars and which ones know their **** and just tell stuff like it is.

                    Wilder has a poor, lying, shameful character, as does the 'team' he has around him.

                    Joshua is a nicer person who accepted his loss, admitted it, won again and so on. This is just a simple fact.

                    Joshua's promoter is doing everything he can to bring us fights, Wilder's old paymaster is doing nothing.

                    You might as well be a Trump supporter as a Wilder supporter - it makes zero sense in your own interests either way - both lie to you and just want your money.

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