Who in there right minds have Crawford over Manny p4p currently?

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  • aboutfkntime
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    #11
    Originally posted by kushking
    This makes literally no sense,Canelo is known worldwide as the fighter since way before his prime whos faced killers on a regular basis & is barely going into his boxing peak,so to pretend like he hasn't proven to be among the most well rounded complete fighters at any weightclass is disingenuous




    yea he is one of the most well-rounded fighters in the game at this point

    Loma/Crawford are just as well-rounded, those three are a head above everyone else imo... but IF all things were equal, Loma/Crawford style would give Canelo fits... real hard to pick a winner there

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      #12
      Originally posted by kidbazooka
      Hahahah nice try but who told you resume doesn’t matter? Lol

      you give me a fighter who beats 25 bums and rarely gets hit(Crawford does get hit a lot too) and another fighter who beats the best consistently(currently not just past)then he’s bound to take some shots but it matters BIG TIME who you beat.

      Crawford hasn’t beaten anyone of note the guy is 33 going on 34 it’s embarrassing.

      And about your skills point Crawford gets wobbled in almost every fight against waaaay lessser compe yet a 40 yr old manny schools a prime Thurman.

      Now I ask you who has Crawford beaten tha comes close to Mannys win over Thurman and don’t say “ it doesn’t matter who you beat” because it will only make you sound silly.

      It’s not hard to see Manny even today is and should still be ranked p4p ahead of Crawford.




      Horn rag-dolled Pac... that was a real fight

      Crawford shut down Horn and embarrassed him... that was not a real fight

      so yea... your "but he beat better opponents" story... did not matter one little bit in those matchups

      #styles

      Crawford does the same thing to Thurman... who has never been regarded as special, or even close... and that version of Thurman was damaged goods, he has not looked like the same fighter since returning from injury/inactivity

      again... if that fight was made tomorrow, Crawford would be the betting favorite

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      • kidbazooka
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        #13
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime
        Horn rag-dolled Pac... that was a real fight

        Crawford shut down Horn and embarrassed him... that was not a real fight

        so yea... your "but he beat better opponents" story... did not matter one little bit in those matchups

        #styles

        Crawford does the same thing to Thurman... who has never been regarded as special, or even close... and that version of Thurman was damaged goods, he has not looked like the same fighter since returning from injury/inactivity

        again... if that fight was made tomorrow, Crawford would be the betting favorite
        So you’re gonna honestly sit there and tell me Horn deserve to beat Manny cuz everyone who knows the sport knows manny got royally fuccked over so don’t even go there it only makes you’re argument look desperate.

        Again who has Crawford beaten that is better than Mannys win over Thurman I’m waiting???

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        • NCBoxingPro
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          #14
          Originally posted by kidbazooka
          So you’re gonna honestly sit there and tell me Horn deserve to beat Manny cuz everyone who knows the sport knows manny got royally fuccked over so don’t even go there it only makes you’re argument look desperate.

          Again who has Crawford beaten that is better than Mannys win over Thurman I’m waiting???
          That's easy. The person who defeated Manny, Jeff Horn. Look at the way Crawford defeated Jeff Horn versus his fight against Manny. Of course Manny has much better wins on his resume than Crawford, but the fact is this. If Crawford and Manny fought today in 2020...Crawford wins. Heck Manny had better wins on his resume than Mayweather, but it didn't help him one bit on fight night. FACTS.
          Last edited by NCBoxingPro; 08-06-2020, 09:08 PM.

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          • HewJohnson
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            #15
            Crawford is not ahead of Manny P4P.
            He hasn’t fought a good enough opponent.

            Manny retired Matthysse, of course a shot has been Lucas but Manny was also coming off a loss.

            Then Manny schooled Adrien Broner whom may be past his prime but is still about 10 years younger and a former champ. And a notable name.

            Manny then stepped all the way up and outclassed an undefeated prime Thurman who was the top dog in WW division at the time.

            Manny did all of this at 41+ years old as a full time senator. Remarkable.

            Manny is top dog at WW right now, at 42 years old.
            You know how to confirm it?

            Crawford, Spence, Mikey and DSG are all hollering his name for a fight.
            Even Thurman is hollering for a rematch.

            Manny still on top.

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            • kushking
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              #16
              Originally posted by aboutfkntime
              Horn rag-dolled Pac... that was a real fight

              Crawford shut down Horn and embarrassed him... that was not a real fight

              so yea... your "but he beat better opponents" story... did not matter one little bit in those matchups

              #styles

              Crawford does the same thing to Thurman... who has never been regarded as special, or even close... and that version of Thurman was damaged goods, he has not looked like the same fighter since returning from injury/inactivity

              again... if that fight was made tomorrow, Crawford would be the betting favorite
              P4p #1 basically means you look like the overall best fighter of the moment as in you look like the fighter who everything else can't compare to,due to you just being outright the recognized best imho. And what makes a fighter look like the outright best? A combination of things,but a fighter who hasn't really beaten anyone can't imo be considered p4p higher than another who beat a superior fighter UNLESS exactly what applies to Bud & Manny which is that manny despite his win over Thurman still looks far less athletic than he used to & is still old af,& Bud has done enough to still look like hed win realistically & despite no competition to compare to pac,bud still looks better athletically & is firing on more cylinders,doing it.
              Last edited by kushking; 08-06-2020, 10:05 PM.

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              • Miles.Ahead
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                #17
                Crawford over Pacquaio. Why is this even a question?

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                • 4truth
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                  #18
                  Pac is among my all time favorite fighters BUT at this stage of the game, you can’t pick Pac to beat Crawford. If I can’t do that, I can’t pick Pac over Crawford p4p.

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                  • Southpawology
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                    #19
                    Crawford 33 years old. Best Win: Yuriorkis Gamboa.



                    LOL.

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                    • kidbazooka
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by NCBoxingPro
                      That's easy. The person who defeated Manny, Jeff Horn. Look at the way Crawford defeated Jeff Horn versus his fight against Manny. Of course Manny has much better wins on his resume than Crawford, but the fact is this. If Crawford and Manny fought today in 2020...Crawford wins. Heck Manny had better wins on his resume than Mayweather, but it didn't help him one bit on fight night. FACTS.
                      So you’re just gonna pretend Manny didn’t get fuccked by the judges smh

                      That’s desperation on the part of you’re argument Manny whooped Horns ass.

                      But I ask you who has Crawford beaten that is a better win than Mannys over Thurman.

                      I know the answer but you guys just don’t wanna say it.

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