Comments Thread For: Loma's Manager: We Want Lopez, If Not Him - Then Maybe We'll Fight Verdejo

[Cypocryphy]

This an alt and is clear to the vets on NSB.

I promise you this is not an Alt account. I made this account a year or two ago but never logged into the forums. I think there was something on Boxingscene that I need an account in order to access. And when I did log into the forums, it made my account look as if it were made as soon as I logged in. But that doesn't even matter because I never started posting here until then. I previously was too busy for forum stuff. Don't know why you think I'm cruising on an Alt account.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Your inferiority is showing with every post.

See! Right here lmao


That's not racist huh? Lmfaoooo.


Multiple posters outing you for who you are and you still refuse to believe it.

[CauliflowerEars]

Hey Larry ! Larry_Rushmore - Check out this thread. Is this what you are talking about ?
Wow. Just wow.
I'm no B.S. old-timer, but the negativity was kind of evident right away. And now with today's particular media hype, certain negative topics are exacerbated.

[BoxingIsGreat]

See! Right here lmao


That's not racist huh? Lmfaoooo.


Multiple posters outing you for who you are and you still refuse to believe it.

Look at what you are saying to me in your posts.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Look at what you are saying to me in your posts.

Are we playing i know you are but what am I?

[Goldie]

What you need to understand is subtle or indirect or covert can be interpreted in a number of ways, and I call them out too, but when it is direct and overt, it needs to be called out by others too. Have you called out people who insult others who do not fit your group, or just your group? I walk the walk.

No. I’m not one of these fake self righteous holier than thou types though. I’m only concerned with anti black racism. Other groups can fight their own battles.

I don't have to be an "Authority" to see when the N word is used to insult blacks, or KKK or wet-back, etc., etc., toward others in a derogatory manner. Anyone with an IQ above a dead rat can see the obvious.

Anyone with an IQ above a dead rat knows that there’s no equivalence with a non black person calling a black person Ni**er and a black persons referring to a suspected white supremacists as kkk. This the game that y’all play though. Y’all want to pretend that it’s racist for blacks to call out racism unless y’all approve. As if we need your permission to say if people are being on some racist sht. You don’t have to agree with dude’s assessment of loma fans.

The part you missed was the "black supremacist" comment from another poster was a response to the initial KKK statement.

Like I just said, y’all are always trying to run this tit for tat “both sides” false equivalence bullsht. So because dude thinks there’s a racial agenda behind the promotion and praise of loma, he must be a black supremacist? Whites have a long and undeniable history of allowing their racial politics and ideologies guide how they view/treat athletes. That’s especially true with boxing so don’t act like we’re just pulling stuff out our a$$.

That “black supremacists” term is thrown around a lot here too. Not just on this thread.

If more people here stop slinging racial insults and others call those people on it, there will be less of this crap here and the conversation will be about boxing. One person says something and then a cascading affect takes place.

KKK is not a slur against white people and you should stop implying that it is.

[richardt]

No. I’m not one of these fake self righteous holier than thou types though. I’m only concerned with anti black racism. Other groups can fight their own battles.

Anyone with an IQ above a dead rat knows that there’s no equivalence with a non black person calling a black person Ni**er and a black persons referring to a suspected white supremacists as kkk. This the game that y’all play though. Y’all want to pretend that it’s racist for blacks to call out racism unless y’all approve. As if we need your permission to say if people are being on some racist sht. You don’t have to agree with dude’s assessment of loma fans.

Like I just said, y’all are always trying to run this tit for tat “both sides” false equivalence bullsht. So because dude thinks there’s a racial agenda behind the promotion and praise of loma, he must be a black supremacist? Whites have a long and undeniable history of allowing their racial politics and ideologies guide how they view/treat athletes. That’s especially true with boxing so don’t act like we’re just pulling stuff out our a$$.

That “black supremacists” term is thrown around a lot here too. Not just on this thread.

KKK is not a slur against white people and you should stop implying that it is.

I never said anything about racial slurs being equal. Negative racial comments are not appropriate on these boards whether it is using the N word or KKK references or wet-back references other belittling statements to groups! And I don't approve of someone referring to Loma fans using the KKK reference anymore than any other racial slurs on this site - it will not be tolerated. Using Loma fans in the same sentence as KKK IS a racial inference that doesn't belong on these boards, period.

And stop with the "Y'all want to pretend" crap because it DOESN'T APPLY TO ME. Act like a man and address me directly! All you do is say "Y'all" every time you respond to someone directly which is a ******, IGNORANT generalization!

[richardt]

The bold: If that's what you think, good bye and don't address me again. Those KKK Loma fans have been at it the last couple of weeks. If you never saw their racism and insults, you are willfully blind to it. I wonder why.

I have called people on racism and other things throughout the last decade on here. I know you read my posts. The problem here is that you are a fan of the opposing side of this discussion, and therefore, what you say isn't creditable in this case.

How does supporting Lopez make me a Black Supremacist?

Supporting Lopez does not make you a black supremacist but using KKK in the same sentence as Loma fans in this thread doesn't illustrate your intolerance to racial comments by making that statement either! There was NO reason for you to use KKK in that comment.

How am I willfully blind to insults against blacks when I showed you THREE links below of the MANY times where I defended against the insults towards blacks??? That proves I am not on the opposing side! I start with who initiates a racial comment in a thread that causes the downward spiral. Be it against blacks, whites, mexicans, asians, whoever starts the issue, period!

I dont read every single thread so I'm not obligated to read all of them and comment on all of them but when I read a thread where someone starts a thread with racial attacks or is the first to make a negative racial comment against blacks (or anyone) as I have shown below in defending blacks - and in any other threads that I read, then I will call them out.

Even though I don't read every single thread but I have NO problem challenging the first post in a thread I read that starts a cascade of racial insults. You obviously didn't read three of the many examples below or you would know where I stand on negative racial comments, especially against blacks, which is very obvious based on my responses in these threads:
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=703070
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...=837688&page=2
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...=654571&page=6

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Supporting Lopez does not make you a black supremacist but using KKK in the same sentence as Loma fans in this thread doesn't illustrate your intolerance to racial comments by making that statement either! There was NO reason for you to use KKK in that comment.

How am I willfully blind to insults against blacks when I showed you THREE links below of the MANY times where I defended against the insults towards blacks??? That proves I am not on the opposing side! I start with who initiates a racial comment in a thread that causes the downward spiral. Be it against blacks, whites, mexicans, asians, whoever starts the issue, period!

I dont read every single thread so I'm not obligated to read all of them and comment on all of them but when I read a thread where someone starts a thread with racial attacks or is the first to make a negative racial comment against blacks (or anyone) as I have shown below in defending blacks - and in any other threads that I read, then I will call them out.

Even though I don't read every single thread but I have NO problem challenging the first post in a thread I read that starts a cascade of racial insults. You obviously didn't read three of the many examples below or you would know where I stand on negative racial comments, especially against blacks, which is very obvious based on my responses in these threads:
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=703070
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...=837688&page=2
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...=654571&page=6

Don't you love the black people on this forum making all black people look like ****?

"I only care about racism against black people" that ****ing loser says. "The other races can fight their own battles."

Cool. Then you're cool with racism just not against black people. You can be as racists as you want to white people because that's not your problem.

A black guy sees another black guy call me inferior because I'm defending a boxer using facts but all he can see is color. He wants to call me KKK but since I'm asian I'm just severing my white masters because I'm inferior.

Lmfao. When they cant use their race card they want to act like they're better than myself? Lmfao!

That's literally the definition of a BLACK SUPREMACIST.

Flip the script. If a white guy said the exact same things that trash ass poster Goldie said then everyone would be on him instantly.

"I only care about racism against white people. Other races should fight their own battles"

I guess only racist can be white. No such thing as a black racists lmfao!

[Combat Talk Radio]

Fighters get paid by the matchup, not by star power alone.

Negative.

B-Side fighters are paid based on the terms of the A-Side, who is the star that brings eyes to the fight.

Teofimo is an 'eye test' fighter with a small fanbase of hardcores.

Lomachenko is an 'eye test' fighter with a large fanbase of hardcores.

Loma brings more eyes.

Teo stands to double his largest check.

I say it's fair and he's getting bad advice.

What I don't get, is if Teo makes unreasonable money demands, why NSB is turning on him so bad, yet when Crawford (another 'eye test' for hardcores) makes unrealistic, unreasonable, undeserved money demands, he gets supported?

It's a business. Guys can ask for what they want, but ultimately will only get what they deserve and need to learn their place as B-Side, like Golovkin eventually did.