Canelo

[Sun_Tzu]

Ive followed the Ginger from early on. I always liked him up until he won the belt from Cotto and almost immediately gave it up to duck Golovkin. I mean this really cant be denied even by the most hardcore fanboy.

Now this is just my thinking on this but after Brook kind of held his own before getting his face broke and Danny Jacobs (aslo a big fan of) held his own but obviously lost he and his team thought, its our time to get him. Anyone with eyes knows Canelo lost the first fight, the second fight he was strong the first half but faded and Golovkin had some pivotal moments and made it really close. Ill be honest I havent watched the second fight after it first aired but I thought if there was going to be a draw this was the fight. I felt like Derevyanchenko deserved the nod over Golovkin more than anyone who has ever fought him.

I say all that to say this. I dont really care about the whole ped thing. He got caught, they all do it. Its amazing he did but he did so be it. The dude has a lot of cherry picks but all great fighters do. Kovalev was low hanging fruit but a good win for him, he looked like ass for most of the fight but he landed the punch, you could see it coming.

Im coming back around to the kid is what im saying, Im looking forward to what he can do with the time he has left. He should have a few more loses on his record sure but you could say that about alot of fighters. He aint scared Ill give him that, JMW to LHW doesnt get done all the time.

[Thraxox]

Canelo is not scared. He'll fight anyone, but he makes sure to stack the deck as much as possible against his opponents.

[BOJACK]

If he gives me some money; i will be his biggest supporter. I don't care if it makes me look like a **** sucking ******.

[aboutfkntime]

nah, we already thrashed out that dumb shlt years back

that dumb shlt is exactly what entitled golov-spastics have been saying about their entitled fighter for years

FACT: Canelo had been chasing the Cotto fight for a long time

FACT: Cotto was no middleweight, he weighed 153

FACT: Canelo was a superstar who had never weighed more than 155, he should not be expected to hand a unproven hypejob any kind of advantage

FACT: Mr "anyone from 154-168" (Bullshltkin) could have taken that fight whenever he wanted

Golovkin: Would Fight Ward at 168 and Canelo at 154
http://thaboxingvoice.com/golovkin-a...canelo-at-154/





FACT: Canelo fought Bullshltkin in his very first fight at middleweight

[Bunch Pag]

Canelo is not scared. He'll fight anyone, but he makes sure to stack the deck as much as possible against his opponents.

This probably sums him up to a tee...

Then when fighters don't agree to the stack, they're Duckers... But hey, ho.. the life of Canelo.

Shame, in the ring I think he's fantastic, not so everything else... I don't solely blame him, moreso his team...he could have gone down as a great.. still time mind, but it's probably the odds which he can't stack in his favour...

[Thuglife Nelo]

What I’ve learned and seen in the forum has been a good one. I’m not sure if the pandemic “helped” the circumstances to understand Team Canelo, but I’ve seen posters here whom have been critical of Canelo turn around SIMPLY for what the opponents have been doing. It may be that, OR, boxing is very basic or limited with stars that one stands out from the rest. Now you may be critical of Kovalev or Jacobs all you want, but what were the comparisons for Crawford or Loma opposition? Fans were even critical to say Inoue’s Donaire was Canelo’s Kovalev... I mean both were P4P once upon a time anyways.

With all that being said, as TIME GOES ON, you simply only evaluate what’s presented and the fights that happened. Now I see Plant, Benavidez, Charlo, Smith, BJS, Andrade all hit a heavy bag, and as of late, NONE OF THEM hit it as hard as Canelo. His stocky build and low height weight make it possible for them rocket shots. Many of you that don’t box and for those of us whom been at gyms, you see countless guys of all sizes hit mitts and a bag. You can see why Pros are good at what they do.

Canelo Álvarez is the real deal. Forget judges and all that shet man. All the youngies like Haney, Lopez, Garcia they’ve all got Canelo #1. Why? Their styles aren’t even the same. The answer is Because they and we whom are at gyms know how hard Canelo hits.

I’ve had fractured ribs once or twice. My fault for going hard with guys bigger than me in sparring. The pain and hurt business is real.

BJs, Smith, Charlo, Andrade. Any of these fools take a rocket launcher from the build that Canelo is NOW and they will not fight the way you see them normally do. That is fact.

Mexican Bidness! They is mean body punchers

[Citizen Koba]

I got no problems with Canelo, the kid's a priviledged fighter but that ain't his fault but the fault of the way the sport is set up. The PED thing will never be fully resolved at this point so far as I'm concerned whilst it might cast a shadow there ain't really any point in continuing to bring it up... only thing is for whatever reason I just don't find myself particularly interested in his doings or who he fights. Excellent fighter and I got every respect for his ability but just not my dude.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

I think of a lot of the actual boxing fans and even the guys who dislike him appreciate the skill he shows.

For me and probably other people what sets us off is that despite being so talented he always chooses the easy route.

Does he always need a weight advantage?
Does he always need a weight clause?
Does he always need home field?
Does he always need a past it big name?

He can win without them! However, someone as skilled as Canelo he is definitely overhyped and overpaid and his loyal groupies can't accept that.

Compare Canelo to another top guy in the sport, Lomachenko.

Lomachenko fights all over the world and is willing to fight every single guy who holds a belt just to prove he's the best in his division.

He had a legit claim to being the best at 126, 130, and 135 when he was there and won every fight in convincing fashion, TKO, wide UD.

Compare to Canelo whos resume is littered with controversy. Compared to Canelo whos most controversial fights happen at his home field in Vegas.

Canelo as good as he is doesnt hold a claim to the best in most of the divisions hes been in. Maybe 160, but he left before he could challenge the other champs. He's fought no one worth a mention at 168 and had no intention of fighting at 175 after cherry picking Kovalev.

But everyday all his gay fangirls want to call me a hater because I'm not gay like they are. Like for real, come on Canelo. Do something.

[UNBANNED]

Ive followed the Ginger from early on. I always liked him up until he won the belt from Cotto and almost immediately gave it up to duck Golovkin. I mean this really cant be denied even by the most hardcore fanboy.

Now this is just my thinking on this but after Brook kind of held his own before getting his face broke and Danny Jacobs (aslo a big fan of) held his own but obviously lost he and his team thought, its our time to get him. Anyone with eyes knows Canelo lost the first fight, the second fight he was strong the first half but faded and Golovkin had some pivotal moments and made it really close. Ill be honest I havent watched the second fight after it first aired but I thought if there was going to be a draw this was the fight. I felt like Derevyanchenko deserved the nod over Golovkin more than anyone who has ever fought him.

I say all that to say this. I dont really care about the whole ped thing. He got caught, they all do it. Its amazing he did but he did so be it. The dude has a lot of cherry picks but all great fighters do. Kovalev was low hanging fruit but a good win for him, he looked like ass for most of the fight but he landed the punch, you could see it coming.

Im coming back around to the kid is what im saying, Im looking forward to what he can do with the time he has left. He should have a few more loses on his record sure but you could say that about alot of fighters. He aint scared Ill give him that, JMW to LHW doesnt get done all the time.

How can Canelo duck GGG if he never fought at the weight?

He won the belt at Cottos demand of 155 and offered to defend it there. GGG offered Rosario a catchweight and actually fought Rolls at a CW, but when it came to Canelo he refused all CWs.

Yet people whine about the MW title...well 155-160 is the MW division. Could GGG not make weight in the MW class?

Yall are confusing. Thats why SD12 made me so happy



Borat needed 9 months off to heal up and came back to a tuneup before losing to Dervenchenko but getting the gift decision

[Thuglife Nelo]

Does he always need a weight advantage?
Does he always need a weight clause?
Does he always need home field?
Does he always need a past it big name?

What weight advantage? 10lb morning rule exists with the IBF. A fighter can pay the fee per 1lb, as Jacobs did with his 15mil, so TECHNICALLY you can't even apply that theory to the Jacobs fights since nothing was exercised. Jacobs went against the grain and simply payed 1million to do as he pleased. What's worse is nobody is forcing a fighter to take the fight. Only cowards cry afterwards. Canelo haters can cry all they want about 10lb morning rules. They mad cause Canelo didn't have any stipulations with GGG and bumped that kat off #1 P4P! lol.

This is where you get confused with a weight clause. It was just explained above.

Home field? lol. Did Mayweather fight in Texas in his post career while being A side? Did post Mayweather fight in MSG as A side? Canelo sold out those events that weren't in Vegas.

Past it big name? Trout: Prime. Lara: Prime. Jacobs: Prime

I mean fck. Look at Canelo's age. It's not Genaro Hernandez was a young buck when Floyd beat him. Floyd could'nt even commit to Marquez's original weight and ditched last minute. Floyd fought Mosley when? Forget all the ''retirement'' talk. Those were all games by Floyd and Haymon taking time off for fun.