Pac-dela hoya/floyd-Canelo. Who has a better win?

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  • Zaroku
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    #31
    Originally posted by pasawayako
    Pac-Dela hoya

    Pac last fight 135lbs
    Dela hoya last fightee150 lbs

    Fight @147

    Pac go up 12lbs
    Hoya go down 3lbs

    Pac was a massive underdog and no one gave him a chance

    Result pac tko 8 win

    Floyd-Alvarez

    Floyd last fight 147
    Canelo last fight 154

    Fight @ 152

    Floyd go up 5lbs
    Canelo go down 2lbs

    Floyd was a massive favorite

    Result floyd 12 rounds MD

    Which do u think has better win? Both dela hoya and canelo are drained to make weight.

    Clearly pac has the greater perfirmance and greater win.
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    • pasawayako
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      #32
      Originally posted by W1LL
      C'mon now. I have gained a lot of respect for Manny Pacquiao in recent years, but you are clutching at straws here. Floyd beat a strong, young champion, a man who was already being touted as the next star of Boxing. Pacquiao beat an old, shot, weight-drained De La Hoya who hadn't shown any real form since the millenium.
      If floyd didn't drained a green canelo then u can probably correct that his win is greater than the win of pac against hoya but he beat a drained green canelo in a majority decision couldn't even knock down a drained alvarez.

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        #33
        Originally posted by mxtali
        Bro Canelo would have murdered that DLH. Literally put him in the dirt
        Maybe the present canelo but the green and weight drained canelo is not a threat to a veteran and very experience hoya that pac fought.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Roadblock
          Then you have no idea of what a drained fighter is, just a little food for thought, Manny beat Oscar where Oscar was 147lbs fight night a weight he had not been in 10yrs, Manny actually outweighed him on fight night.

          The Oscar that Floyd beat weighed 164lbs, nearly 17 lbs heavier.
          Even a fan that knows nothing about boxing has got to understand what this means in terms of how much fight is in the same dog.

          Manny beat a extremely weakened Oscar, one of the worst cases of a dehydrated big time fighter in history.

          Steve Forbes a B grade LW gave Oscar all he could handle at 150lbs, and Oscar had to go down more to a weight he had not been since his LW days with a ring weight of 147.

          Oscar that Floyd beat destroyed a MW the fight before Floyd, Mannys Oscar struggled with a LW .
          Hoya was 150lbs in his last fight hw go down 3 lbs while pac go up 12 lbs and u tell me that isn't a great win for pac while canelo who is already killing himself to make 154lbs and that 2lbs make him drained and floyd is a champio at 154lbs but they fought at 152lbs. Lol.

          Pac has a better win because he go up 2 division to annihilate hoya while floyd who is a champion at 154 force canelo to fight at 152lbs that make his win weaker compared to pac.

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          • pasawayako
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            #35
            Originally posted by Zaroku
            An you pick me up In your Jeep née ???

            Don’t call me sir

            Filipinos used to be warriors

            My best friend is a pinoy he could ball

            If Filipino people didn’t exist I would not exist

            My people are Filipino I felt home
            **** off coward...

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              #36
              Originally posted by Scopedog
              Both great wins but I think Pacquaio's is better by virtue of how he beat Oscar up and forced him to quit, and while Oscar was old Canelo was very green in his fight with Floyd, which I think is worse.
              Yes, id have to agree. Nel o was green, and wasn't top 10 pfp in most people eyes and it was a cw so why would beating someone outside top ten be any good.
              When nel o lost, people weren't sure how good nel o was and if h ed disappear like guerrero and all Floyd s other wins? The jury was out on nelo. People didn't think it was a good win at time as people thought of nel o as potential
              Pac s win over dlh is greater, as after How Floyd arguably lost to dlh most made Pac favourite against floyd on strength of that win, and win over cotto
              Last edited by hugh grant; 08-02-2020, 03:38 AM.

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                #37
                Originally posted by pasawayako
                If floyd didn't drained a green canelo then u can probably correct that his win is greater than the win of pac against hoya but he beat a drained green canelo in a majority decision couldn't even knock down a drained alvarez.
                How exactly did Floyd drain Canelo? Canelo had moved up in weight from Welter only a couple of years prior. He weighed 153.5 in his fight previous to Floyd, and 152 when fighting Floyd. That is a lot different than an old man coming down from 160 or 154 to 145, don't you think?
                • De La Hoya: 35 years old, last meaningful fights being at 154 and 160, coming down to 145, a weight class he hadn't fought at for over 7 years
                • Canelo: 23 years old, last meaningful fights being at 153.5 and 154, coming down to 152, the weight class he had been fighting at for 3 years

                Can't put it simpler for you. If you still don't get it you never will.

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                  #38
                  Canelos win vs Kovalev was better then both those wins

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by pasawayako
                    Hoya was 150lbs in his last fight hw go down 3 lbs while pac go up 12 lbs and u tell me that isn't a great win for pac while canelo who is already killing himself to make 154lbs and that 2lbs make him drained and floyd is a champio at 154lbs but they fought at 152lbs. Lol.

                    Pac has a better win because he go up 2 division to annihilate hoya while floyd who is a champion at 154 force canelo to fight at 152lbs that make his win weaker compared to pac.
                    Manny 148 fight night against Oscar.

                    Manny 144 fight night against Morales .

                    Youre such a fanboy you really have no idea of boxing.

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                    • QueensburyRules
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by pasawayako
                      Pac-Dela hoya

                      Pac last fight 135lbs
                      Dela hoya last fightee150 lbs

                      Fight @147

                      Pac go up 12lbs
                      Hoya go down 3lbs

                      Pac was a massive underdog and no one gave him a chance

                      Result pac tko 8 win

                      Floyd-Alvarez

                      Floyd last fight 147
                      Canelo last fight 154

                      Fight @ 152

                      Floyd go up 5lbs
                      Canelo go down 2lbs

                      Floyd was a massive favorite

                      Result floyd 12 rounds MD

                      Which do u think has better win? Both dela hoya and canelo are drained to make weight.

                      Clearly pac has the greater perfirmance and greater win.
                      - -Manny took the exact fight JoyBoy walked out on in the middle of promotions, proclaiming hisself a billionaire and wouldn't work for slave wages anymore.

                      JoyBoy came crawling back to Oscar so he could have his purses seized vs Marquez who was still training on his peewater spritzers then before he discovered BALCO.

                      Rinse and repeat vs BALCO Shane.

                      Manny taking the Oscar fight JoyBoy ducked > than anyone JoyBoy ever fought. He RETIRED Oscar!

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