Biggest American hype job in the 21st century?

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

Surely my opinion, as a non-American, picking an American is the same as an American saying non-American's have low IQ's for picking American's, on a thread that's titled 'Biggest American Hype Job'

What makes an American fighter exempt from being a hype job?

I don't think Americans are exempt from being hype jobs, but most of the time the machine doesn't hype up American fighters like that, hence why Paulie Malignaggi said it's the time of the Eastern European in boxing, even though America still has the most champions of any country in boxing.

Golovkin and Lomachenko are obviously hyped to the moon(Lomachenko isn't a massive hype job like GGG though, just a little hype job) and in Loma case he gets matched up very favorably. He was clearly a lightweight down there fighting featherweights and bantamweights and now that he is at lightweight he looks very human. GGG was bum bashing and was considered P4P #1 which was absolutely ridiculous.

In AMERICAN boxing though Teofimo Lopez is kind of a hype job to me, I aint even a big Loma fan like that but outside of Loma getting clipped he should easily be able to outbox Lopez who if he can't knock you out looks mighty struggleish. Lopez off the eye test is not on Haney or Tank Davis level... I wish I could say Ryan Garcia too but until he fights an actual 12 round fight against a legit opponent(Luke Campbell really isn't that good, but he's ok enough to give us an idea I guess) we have no idea where he actually is.

Crawford is a failed hype job. They pump him up as P4P #1, but most people in this country, despite what his incredibly vocal but small fanbase would have you believe, aint buying it which is why his fanbase and drawing power is terrible compared to someone like Tank Davis who is young and doesn't even have half of Crawford's hyped up accolades.

[BoxingIsGreat]

I don't think Americans are exempt from being hype jobs, but most of the time the machine doesn't hype up American fighters like that, hence why Paulie Malignaggi said it's the time of the Eastern European in boxing, even though America still has the most champions of any country in boxing.

Golovkin and Lomachenko are obviously hyped to the moon(Lomachenko isn't a massive hype job like GGG though, just a little hype job) and in Loma case he gets matched up very favorably. He was clearly a lightweight down there fighting featherweights and bantamweights and now that he is at lightweight he looks very human. GGG was bum bashing and was considered P4P #1 which was absolutely ridiculous.

In AMERICAN boxing though Teofimo Lopez is kind of a hype job to me, I aint even a big Loma fan like that but outside of Loma getting clipped he should easily be able to outbox Lopez who if he can't knock you out looks mighty struggleish. Lopez off the eye test is not on Haney or Tank Davis level... I wish I could say Ryan Garcia too but until he fights an actual 12 round fight against a legit opponent(Luke Campbell really isn't that good, but he's ok enough to give us an idea I guess) we have no idea where he actually is.

Crawford is a failed hype job. They pump him up as P4P #1, but most people in this country, despite what his incredibly vocal but small fanbase would have you believe, aint buying it which is why his fanbase and drawing power is terrible compared to someone like Tank Davis who is young and doesn't even have half of Crawford's hyped up accolades.

The bold: Absolutely agree. Green K.

[ShaneMosleySr]

Cletus Seldin.

Golovkin and Lomachenko. Can't think of one American hypejob.

[chirorickyp]

Barack *****. I actually like his personality and the job he's done as a father. Here's what makes me think he's a hype job. I expected him to bring even more racial harmony but that went the other way. I don't know how Americans can be called systemically racist when we elected him TWICE.
He led a white priveledged life with his white grand parents and went to expensive high school for a certain element of society.
He was not raised in the hood nor was he around the life of drugs prostitution or black on black murder or violence against blacks.
The Great John Lewis overcame it all not Barack *****.
Barack has done nothing for the Black Community in Chicago nor does he bring up the subject.
Black Rights Activist Leo Terrell acknowledges this.
Larry Elder has also made an Amazing documentary called Uncle Tom that puts up all the facts right in our faces.
Barack ***** is a good guy but he is NOT a John Lewis, or Martin Luther King. He's a White Privledged politician just like the rest of them. A Hype Job.

[chirorickyp]

Barack *****. I actually like his personality and the job he's done as a father. Here's what makes me think he's a hype job. I expected him to bring even more racial harmony but that went the other way. I don't know how Americans can be called systemically racist when we elected him TWICE.
He led a white priveledged life with his white grand parents and went to expensive high school for a certain element of society.
He was not raised in the hood nor was he around the life of drugs prostitution or black on black murder or violence against blacks.
The Great John Lewis overcame it all not Barack *****.
Barack has done nothing for the Black Community in Chicago nor does he bring up the subject.
Black Rights Activist Leo Terrell acknowledges this.
Larry Elder has also made an Amazing documentary called Uncle Tom that puts up all the facts right in our faces.
Barack ***** is a good guy but he is NOT a John Lewis, or Martin Luther King. He's a White Privledged politician just like the rest of them. A Hype Job.

My apologies, I thought it was the greatest hype job of the 21st century period, not solely boxing. My bad.

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

The bold: Absolutely agree. Green K.

Yup. and I don't even want to call Lopez and Crawford hype jobs because the level of hype they get is nothing compared to what Lomachenko and GGG got.

True story I started a new job last year at the GM assembly plant out here, and some old timers(I'm 31 now, was 30 at the time) were talking about boxing, me being the avid boxing fan I am was asking them who their favorite boxers right now were, and they all said they don't really follow boxing currently. This was a few weeks before the Lomachenko-Campbell fight so I told them about it, how they can watch it for free on ESPN+ and what not and that Lomachenko was supposed to be considered the best P4P fighter in the world. They were all interested and said they would watch the fight since it was free, and this was a mixture of ethnic backgrounds mind you not just one group. They all get back to work on Monday and I asked them what they thought, and this one old guy in his early 60s said 'If he is the best boxer in the world today, boxing ****ing sucks.' The sentiment was pretty much the same amongst them all, it was hilarious and sad at the same time to me.

[maguirre]

21st century will end in 2100. We're only in the 20th year and there's still 80 years to go. Many of us will no longer be around by that time.

Why didn't you just ask in the last 2 decades? Why century?

[BoxingIsGreat]

Yup. and I don't even want to call Lopez and Crawford hype jobs because the level of hype they get is nothing compared to what Lomachenko and GGG got.

True story I started a new job last year at the GM assembly plant out here, and some old timers(I'm 31 now, was 30 at the time) were talking about boxing, me being the avid boxing fan I am was asking them who their favorite boxers right now were, and they all said they don't really follow boxing currently. This was a few weeks before the Lomachenko-Campbell fight so I told them about it, how they can watch it for free on ESPN+ and what not and that Lomachenko was supposed to be considered the best P4P fighter in the world. They were all interested and said they would watch the fight since it was free, and this was a mixture of ethnic backgrounds mind you not just one group. They all get back to work on Monday and I asked them what they thought, and this one old guy in his early 60s said 'If he is the best boxer in the world today, boxing ****ing sucks.' The sentiment was pretty much the same amongst them all, it was hilarious and sad at the same time to me.

And also most casuals are into bigger fighters and names.

Loma has skills but I'd say he's overhyped because he's white. Some even try desperately to erase his loss to a journeyman with 14 losses. 14 people have done it so far, including Gamboa, but Loma couldn't do it.

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

And also most casuals are into bigger fighters and names.

Loma has skills but I'd say he's overhyped because he's white. Some even try desperately to erase his loss to a journeyman with 14 losses. 14 people have done it so far, including Gamboa, but Loma couldn't do it.

That's the machine for you. Loma fights for Top Rank who are backed by ESPN aka the machine. The current P4P list is a joke. Lomachenko, Crawford and Inoue in the top 5 is pathetic, and I am a fan of Inoue, but he isn't top 5, top 10 sure I'll allow it, but #3 P4P hell no. The fact that Tyson Fury and GGG are on the most at all is a joke as well. Usyk hasn't done anything since he went undisputed at Cruiserweight, which was a weak division in the first place. He should have been dropped off by now. The media definitely plays a huge part in peoples perception of certain fighters which creates one of the biggest problems in boxing: extreme fanboyism and a lack of objectivity, and honestly I don't post on this site often because this website is full of ultra fanboys who don't even discuss actual boxing most of the time and just repeat the talking points promoters put out there. Not everyone here is like that, but a lot of posters here are obvious trolls so it is what it is.

[AKAcronym]

Got to love when people can't even answer the ****ing question correctly. Always an agenda.